[REGULAR MEETING – 7:00 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS]
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[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL: Mayor Michael Mayor Pro Tem Kennedy Council Members Hutchison, Scott and Stickler]
TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE TO OUR NATION'S FLAG.THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE JOIN AND STAND AND JOIN ME.
I PLEDGE THE LEAD TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE ROLL.
PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBERS RYAN HUTCHINSON PRESENT.
CHRISTINE SCOTT PRESENT AND ASHLEY STICKLER PRESENT.
BEFORE I MOVE ON ANY FURTHER, I'D JUST LIKE TO ANNOUNCE TONIGHT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPECIAL GUESTS IN THE AUDIENCE.
THEY'RE THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF CHRISTINE SCOTT OVER HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, ALL THE WAY FROM COLORADO VISIT VISITING US FROM COLORADO.
ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THIS EVENING'S
[A. AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA]
AGENDA? MADAM CLERK? NO.ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS.
[B. ANNOUNCEMENTS / PRESENTATIONS]
THIS EVENING AND THAT'S A PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION DECLARING[B1. Presentation of a Proclamation Declaring the Month of July 2024 as National Park and Recreation Month.]
THE MONTH OF JULY, 2024 AS NATIONAL PARK AND RECREATION MONTH.I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR FORWARD TO THE DAAS TED MORALES, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
SUPERINTENDENT, TED, I'M RIGHT ON OVER HERE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION BEFORE WE GIVE YOU, UH, THE PROCLAMATION? YEAH, LY, ABSOLUTELY.
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.
EACH YEAR OUR NATION RECOGNIZES THE MONTH OF JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF PARKS AND RECREATION IN ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE PHYSICAL, ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL WELLBEING OF THE COMMUNITIES.
THIS YEAR'S THEME IS WHERE YOU BELONG, WHICH CELEBRATES THE MANY WAYS THAT PARKS AND RECREATION PROFESSIONALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOSTER A SENSE OF BELONGING IN THEIR COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING WELCOMING AND INCLUSIVE PROGRAMS, ESSENTIAL SERVICES FOR ALL AGES AND ABILITIES AND SAFE, ACCESSIBLE SPACES TO BUILD MEANINGFUL CONNECTIONS.
I WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO RECOGNIZE ALL THE COMMUNITY SERVICES TEAM MEMBERS THAT PLAY A ROLE IN MAKING OUR SERVICES AND OFFERINGS SOME OF THE FINEST IN THE INLAND EMPIRE.
I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE LEVEL OF PASSION, INTEGRITY, AND COMMITMENT THAT OUR STAFF BRING TO WORK ALL FOR THE SERVICE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
FROM PREMIER SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE THE 4TH OF JULY, SPECTACULAR TO OUR SPORTS PROGRAM'S, PEEWEE BASEBALL, ALL THE WAY TO PICKLEBALL OUR OUTSTANDING CLASSES SUCH AS BUTTERFLY BALLERINAS AND SIT AND BEFIT.
OUR THRIVING INCREDIBLES PROGRAM SOLD OUT SHOWS AT THE LEWIS FAMILY PLAYHOUSE TO A WORLD CLASS INTERGENERATIONAL COMMUNITY CENTER THAT DRAWS IN NEARLY 240,000 VISITORS EACH YEAR.
THIS AND SO MUCH MORE FOSTERS A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING THAT IS SO CLEARLY VISIBLE THROUGHOUT RANCHO CUCAMONGA.
AND I'D BE REMISS FOR NOT MENTIONING IT IS A TEAM EFFORT, A BIG SHOUT OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR THE ROLE THEY PLAY IN KEEPING OUR PARKS WELL MAINTAINED, SAFE AND LUSH TO CAN FOR PRODUCING OUR AWARD-WINNING MAGAZINE, LIFESTYLE MAGAZINE, AND TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES OF RANCH, CUCAMONGA, FIRE, FINANCE, PD, EVERYBODY, YOU ALL PLAY A ROLE.
SO THANK YOU AND TO OUR EXCELLENT LEADERSHIP THAT STANDS HERE THAT UNDERSTANDS THE VALUE IN WHAT WE DO.
THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THIS PROCLAMATION.
JUST HANG ON TO THAT FOR A SECOND AND COME RIGHT ON OVER HERE, TED.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA READ THIS PROCLAMATION.
I I IT WAS A LONG PROCLAMATION.
THERE WERE SO MANY WHEREASES, I'VE KIND OF TAKEN IT A LITTLE BIT OF, OF EDITORIAL PRIVILEGE AND, UM, BUT IT'S ALL HERE AND THAT PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION ARE A VITAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, INCLUDING OUR CITY, RANCHO CUCAMONGA.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTE HEALTH AND WELLNESS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVING THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF RESIDENTS BY PROVIDING ACCESSIBLE SPACES FOR EXERCISE AS WELL AS RELAXATION.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION FOSTER A CONNECTION WITH NATURE, WHICH IS KNOWN TO IMPROVE MENTAL HEALTH BY BOOSTING COGNITIVE PERFORMANCE, OVERALL WELLBEING, AND ALLEVIATING CONDITIONS
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SUCH AS DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, AND EVEN ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE.WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION ENCOURAGE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY BY OFFERING SPACES FOR SPORTS, HIKING, TRAILS, CYCLING, AND VARIOUS OTHER ACTIVITIES, THEREBY PROMOTING ACTIVE AND HEALTHY LIFESTYLES FOR ALL AGES.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS, INCLUDING SUMMER YOUTH CAMPS, YOUTH SPORTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND EDUCATION OF CHILDREN FOSTERING LIFELONG SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE.
AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION CONTRIBUTE TO A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY BY ENHANCING PROPERTY VALUES, BOOSTING TOURISM, ATTRACTING AND RETAINING BUSINESSES, AND REDUCING CRIME RATES.
AND LASTLY, AND WHEREAS THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAVE DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE SPACES AND ACTIVITIES FOR ALL COMMUNITIES.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT CAN PROCLAIM THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA SUPPORT AND RECOGNIZE JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH ACKNOWLEDGING THE VITAL ROLE THAT PARKS AND RECREATION PLAY IN ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE, HEALTH, AND WELLBEING OF ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND, AND IT'S JUST AN INCREDIBLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE PART OF THAT TEAM OUT THERE OF ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS.
AND YOU PLAY A KEY ROLE, TED, SO THANK YOU AND ALL OF YOUR STAFFING.
[C. PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS]
COMMUNICATIONS.THIS IS THE TIME AND THE PLACE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY ITEMS LISTED OR NOT LISTED ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA.
COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL.
UH, WHEN THAT RED LIGHT ON THE PODIUM, WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM OUT THERE, WHEN THAT RED LIGHT GOES OFF, IT MEANS YOU'VE REACHED YOUR THREE MINUTE STANDPOINT.
AND THERE'S ALSO A TIMER UP HERE ON THE SCREEN.
WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS TONIGHT.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS CYNTHIA PRESCOTT.
IF I MISPRONOUNCE THAT, PLEASE CORRECT IT FOR THE RECORD, MA'AM.
AND AS FOLLOWED BY MANUEL LOPEZ, YOU, YOU CAN COME UP THE YEAH, YOU CAN COME UP TODAY.
CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN RANCHO CUCAMONGA FOR THE PAST 23 YEARS.
I WANTED TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE TODAY REGARDING THE RECREATION OFFERINGS OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA IN HONOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH AS THE MOTHER OF THREE WHO WERE RAISED HERE IN RANCHO CUCAMONGA, AS WELL AS A DAYCARE PROVIDER HELPING RAISE OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN'S IN MY HOME FOR THE PAST 23 YEARS.
I HAVE ENDLESS POSITIVE EXPERIENCES THAT HAVE COME FROM WHAT THE CITY HAS TO OFFER THROUGH PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES.
AMONG SOME OF MY FAVORITES HAVE BEEN OUR VISITS TO LEWIS FAMILY PLAYHOUSE THEATER, WHETHER IT WAS WITH MY OWN FAMILY GOING TO SEE A SHOW OR WITH 14 LITTLE SOULS IN TOW THAT I CARE FOR, TO EXPOSE THEM TO LIVE THEATER LIKE CURIOUS GEORGE OR THE VARIOUS SUMMER SHOWS THE LIBRARY PROVIDES.
WE ARE ALWAYS EXCITED AND NEVER DISAPPOINTED WITH OUR EXPERIENCE.
THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN SELLING POINTS WITHIN MY BUSINESS TO HELP IT THRIVE BECAUSE I'M ABLE TO UTILIZE THE MANY WONDERFUL ACTIVITIES PARK AND RECREATIONS HAVE TO OFFER.
WHEN MY NOW GROWN CHILDREN WERE SMALL, WE LOOKED FORWARD TO OPENING THE CITY CATALOG AS THEY WERE RE RELEASED, CHOOSING WHAT THEY WANTED TO LEARN NEXT.
SOMETIMES IT WAS MET SKIN FOLKLORE, HIP HOP, GYMNASTICS, PEEWEE SOCCER, OR A SUMMER SWIMMING LESSON.
WHATEVER IT WAS, I WAS ALWAYS CERTAIN IT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE AND BENEFICIAL FOR THEM.
AS A GRANDMOTHER, I NOW GET TO WITNESS ANOTHER GENERATION, MY GRANDDAUGHTER ENJOYING THE SAME PROGRAMS THROUGH OUR CITY THAT HER MOTHER DID TOO.
SHE GETS SO EXCITED EACH WEEK TO GET DRESSED UP FOR HER DANCE CLASS.
OUR ENTIRE FAMILY SHOWS UP WEEKLY TO WITNESS THE JOY THAT ONLY COMES FROM A CHILD LEARNING SOMETHING NEW.
WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THOSE MOMENTS OUR FAMILY GETS TO ENJOY TOGETHER AS A DAYCARE PROVIDER.
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TERRIFIC PERK FOR MY BUSINESS IS THE FUN PARKS WITHIN OUR CITY.I OFTEN TRAVEL TO DIFFERENT PARKS WITH THE CHILDREN AND EVERY TIME THEY ARE EXCITED TO EXPLORE WHAT WE WILL FIND AS WE ARRIVE TO EACH PARK.
IT GIVES ME PEACE OF MIND KNOWING THAT THE PARKS ARE ALWAYS MAINTAINED AND SAFE FOR A FUN FILLED EXPERIENCE.
I HAVE ATTENDED BIRTHDAYS, WEDDINGS, BABY SHOWERS, GIRL SCOUT, BRIDGING CEREMONIES, AND MANY OF MY LITTLE COUSIN'S DOWN SYNDROME, FAMILY RESOURCE CENTER ACTIVITIES AT OUR WONDERFUL CENTRAL PARK.
IT'S SUCH A FANTASTIC RESOURCE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, OUR CONCERTS AND AND MOVIES IN THE PARK PROMOTE STRENGTHENING FAMILY BONDS, UNITING OUR COMMUNITY AND ENCOURAGING DEEPER RELATIONSHIPS.
THESE THINGS NOW MORE THAN EVER, ARE VITAL IN TODAY'S WORLD.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET BACK TO BASIC THINGS LIKE SITTING ON A BLANKET AND HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THOSE YOU LOVE MOST.
I'M SO THANKFUL FOR ALL THAT RANCHO CUCAMONGA PARK AND RECREATIONS OFFER US.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
MANUEL LOPEZ, FOLLOWED BY PHILLIPE WALKER.
I HAVE NEVER SPOKEN IN FRONT OF ANYBODY BEFORE IN MY LIFE, BUT I FELT THE NEED TO.
CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOUR CENTRAL PARK? YEAH, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
WHERE PARTICULARLY THE FACILITY OF, UH, THE GYM.
AND, UH, I, UH, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS.
MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE, UH, TO HAVE SOME ASSISTED LIVING WHERE WE THERE THREE MONTHS AND SHE PASSED AWAY THERE.
SHE HAD DEMENTIA AND UM, THAT WAS TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO AND I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND THE PLACE THAT I WENT TO.
SO I WON'T GIVE YOU THE NAME OF IT 'CAUSE I FELT THEY DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB.
MY DAUGHTER, I LIVE HERE BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER LIVES HERE AND BECAUSE OF MY AGE, WHICH I'LL TELL YOU THAT LATER.
I WANT TO SHARE EXPERIENCE IN CENTRAL PARK ON THE FACILITIES, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE MANY.
MY MAIN CONCERN IS WITH THE GYM.
I GENERALLY WORK OUT FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
BEEN THERE TWO YEARS AND A HALF CAME IN AT 150 POUNDS.
I'M NOW 170 POUNDS AND IT'S MOSTLY, I THINK, MUSCLE, BUT I DON'T KNOW,
AND UM, THE EQUIPMENT IS VERY GOOD FOR SENIORS.
MOST SENIORS USE TREADMILLS AND MACHINES TO EXERCISE.
EXERCISE, LEGS AND ARMS. SOME USE THE, UH, FREE WEIGHTS AND THE UNIVERSAL MACHINE.
MOST OF THESE, THEY DO IT INCORRECTLY 'CAUSE THEY'VE HAD NO TRAINING.
BUT SOME EXERCISE IS BETTER THAN NO EXERCISE.
THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT ANYWAY.
AND I SOMETIMES I ADVISE THEM HOW TO DO IT CORRECTLY IF THEY ASK AND ESPECIALLY THE LADIES.
AND, UH,
THEY HAVE, UH, CHECKS THAT COME IN AND CHECK EVERYTHING ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND I CAME TO SHOW YOU WHAT'S PROOF OF WHAT CAN BE DONE.
THIS IS WHAT CAN BE DONE AT THE, AT THE, UH, GYM.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S JAWS JUST OPENED.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING THAT THERE.
I AM PHILIP E. WALKER, A FULL-TIME, HOLLYWOOD TALENT, AND A DECADE RESIDENT OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA.
AND I AM ELATED TO TELL YOU THAT WE ACTUALLY COMPLETED THE FILM ATLAS REVENGE AND PREMIERED
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IT IN OLD SACRAMENTO ON JUNETEENTH EVE.FOLLOWING THAT, WE CELEBRATED JUNETEENTH ON THE STEPS OF THE CAPITOL.
AND I'M ELATED TO REPORT THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED FROM THAT GATHERING IS THE CITY OF SACRAMENTO MADE A DECISION TO PUT UP JUNETEENTH AS A CITY HOLIDAY GOLD SACRAMENTO.
I AM SORRY THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO COME TO COUNCIL MEETING ON YOUR LAST MEETING, BUT I WAS IN SACRAMENTO WORKING ON THE STATE.
I HOPE THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGED THAT YOU MET ON THE FEDERAL HOLIDAY, AND I HOPE THAT THAT WILL BE THE LAST TIME THAT THE EMPLOYEES OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA WILL BE EXPECTED TO COME TO WORK ON A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.
I PRAY THAT MY ALL AMERICAN CITY ALIGNS ITSELF WITH THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT, WITH CHOOSING AND VOTING TO MAKE JUNETEENTH A CITY HOLIDAY.
AFTER WE FINISHED OUR, UH, WORLD PREMIER IN SACRAMENTO, OUR NEXT PERFORMANCE, I'M ELATED TO TELL YOU, WAS IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, FORT WORTH IS THE EPICENTER OF THE JUNETEENTH HOLIDAY MOVEMENT.
AND SO I GAINED A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION FROM THOSE TEXANS, UH, IN OUR DISCUSSION THAT FOLLOWS OUR, UH, PRESENTATIONS.
THE NEXT TIME HAPLESS REVENGE WILL PLAY IS IN NORTH CAROLINA.
IT WILL DO A FIVE DAY RUN AT THE INTERNATIONAL BLACK THEATER FESTIVAL.
I WILL BE THERE AND, UH, LEAVE THE DISCUSSIONS THAT FOLLOW.
AND, UH, AFTER THAT, ON AUGUST 16TH, WE WILL OPEN OUR SIXTH 100 FILM RETREAT.
THE MAYOR HAS GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO COME AND WITNESS THE PREMIERE, THE CITY PREMIER OF HAPLESS REVENGE.
AND WE INVITE ALL OF YOU TO PLEASE COME AND JOIN US FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION THAT FOLLOWS.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS PORTION OF THIS EVENING'S AGENDA.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT CALENDAR.
[D. CONSENT CALENDAR]
THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS EXPECTED TO BE ROUTINE AND NON-CONTROVERSIAL.IT'LL BE ACTED UPON AT ONE TIME WITHOUT COMMUNICATION OR WITHOUT COMMENT UNLESS ANY COUNCIL MEMBER CARES TO PULL AN ITEM FOR SUCH DISCUSSION.
UH, MR. MAYOR, I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM ITEM D THREE DUE TO POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST AS SOCALGAS IS MY EMPLOYER.
OKAY, UH, YOUR ABSTENTION IS I NOTED ON ITEM D THREE.
AND IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE REVISED STAFF REPORT FOR ITEM D NINE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? SO MOVED.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH THE REVISED STAFF REPORT FOR ITEM D NINE AND BOARD MEMBER SCOTT ABSTAINING ON ITEM D THREE.
[CONSENT CALENDAR ORDINANCE(S) - SECOND READING/ADOPTION]
ORDINANCE THIS EVENING.SO WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM F ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING ITEMS.
[ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING ITEM(S)]
UH, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY VIEW HEARING[F1. Preliminary Review Hearing to Consider a Proposed Master Plan Application for a Commercial Development that Would Include Site Specific Development Standards at the Northwest Corner of Base Line Road and Day Creek Marketplace. (CITY)]
TO CONSIDER A PROPOSED MASTER PLAN APPLICATION FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE SITE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BASELINE ROAD AND DAY CREEK MARKETPLACE.MR. GILLISON? YES, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO THE CITY'S PROCESS IS THAT APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A MASTER PLAN, UH, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR IN FRONT OF THE COUNSEL, ESSENTIALLY AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS FOR THE COUNSEL TO PROVIDE THEIR THOUGHTS, UM, ON THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
AND THAT WAY IF THE APPLICANT CHOOSES TO PURSUE THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS, UM, ULTIMATELY ALL THE WAY THROUGH ITS CONCLUSION, UH, THEY'RE DOING SO WITH AN IDEA OF WHAT SOME OF THE COUNCIL'S INITIAL THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS, OR CONCERNS MIGHT BE.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UH, THIS IS PROBABLY THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME WE'VE HAD ONE OF THESE TO BRING IN FRONT OF YOU.
BUT WE DO HAVE A PROPOSED MASTER PLAN APPLICATION TONIGHT FOR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE SOME SITE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BASELINE ROAD AND DAY CREEK MARKETPLACE.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, JENNIFER NAKAMURA, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND BON MENDEZ, OUR ASSOCIATE PLANNER, AND THEY WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT ON THIS ITEM.
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GOOD EVENING.UH, YES, AS MENTIONED, UH, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A PROPOSAL FOR A MASTER PLAN, UH, GETTING RIGHT INTO THE STAFF REPORT.
THANK YOU JOHN GILSON, FOR GIVING THAT INTRODUCTION.
UH, MOVING FORWARD, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF FOR COUNCIL IS TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE POLICY IMPLICATIONS FROM THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN.
AS MENTIONED, UH, THERE ARE PROPOSED DEVIATIONS FROM BUILDING FRONTED STANDARDS, GROUND FLOOR TRANSPARENCY STANDARDS, AND REDUCTION IN FLOOR AREA RATIO STANDARDS.
UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, BUT COULD YOU JUST MOVE THE MICROPHONE JUST A LITTLE CLOSER? OH, SURE.
THE RECOMMENDATION CONTINUES TO, UH, REQUEST THAT COUNCIL PROVIDES COMMENTS BACK TO THE APPLICANT WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD PROCEED WITH THE MASTER PLAN APPLICATION.
UH, FOR BACKGROUND, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED IN AUGUST, 2021, THE MASTER PLAN POLICY, WHICH AGAIN IS A APPLICANT INITIATED, UM, APPLICATION.
UM, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS AGAIN ON BASELINE ROAD AND DAY CREEK MARKETPLACE.
UH, THIS WAS WITHIN A FORM-BASED ZONE, UH, BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2021.
A UH, GENERAL PLAN UPDATE FOLLOWED BY THE DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE IN MAY OF 2022 INTRODUCED FORM-BASED ZONES AND FORM-BASED CODES, UH, WHICH SPEAKS TO THIS PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY AT BASELINE ROAD IN MARCH OF 2024.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A REQUEST FOR THE MASTER PLAN ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO WHAT IS A MASTER PLAN? A MASTER PLAN ESSENTIALLY IS A TOOL AND IT ALLOWS DEVELOPERS TO ESTABLISH A, UH, A BIG IDEA PROJECT.
AND THE INTENT IS TO ESTABLISH CERTAIN, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING STRUCTURES WITH THE IDEA OF MEETING THESE OBJECTIVES.
DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE LISTED BEFORE YOU AS WELL.
WHAT A MASTER PLAN IS NOT, IS NOT A VARIANCE.
SO THE, THERE STILL IS THE REQUIREMENT THAT A PROJECT WOULD MEET OBJECTIVES, GOALS, AND POLICIES WITHIN THE GEN GENERAL PLAN, BUT WOULD STILL HAVE SOME DEVIATIONS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE A BIG IDEA PROJECT.
A FEW EXAMPLES, UH, WE WANTED TO PROVIDE, UH, ONE IS THE TOWN CENTER SQUARE, WHICH IS JUST ADJACENT TO US ACROSS HAVEN.
UH, SO HERE WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES AREAS FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE SPACE, UH, ON A VACANT PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE A LARGE SITE.
THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY IS APPROXIMATELY THREE, TWO GROSS ACRES AND IT ALLOWS FOR HORIZONTAL MIXED USE WITH THIS SPECIFIC MASTER PLAN BACK WHEN THE MASTER PLAN WAS, UM, APPROVED OR ADOPTED FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE.
THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AT THE TIME, MORE THAN LIKELY WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED FOR THIS SPECIFIC DESIGN, BUT OVERALL, THIS SPECIFIC MASTER PLAN DOES ACHIEVE, UH, OBJECTIVES, GOALS, AND POLICIES WITHIN THE GENERAL PLAN.
UH, FOLLOWING THE THAT EXAMPLE, WE HAVE TWO OTHER MORE RECENT EXAMPLES, WHICH WOULD BE VICTORIA GARDENS AND THE EPICENTER.
UH, AS SUCH THERE'S ARE UNDER PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT CODES AND, UH, GENERAL PLAN GOALS AND POLICIES, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THE MASTER PLAN ALLOWS FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO OCCUR, WHICH MAY NOT MEET THE EXACT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, BUT THERE STILL IS A, AN OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE DESIGN MEETING.
ALL THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN OBJECTIVES AS WELL, UH, FOR THIS SPECIFIC, UH, APPLICATION BEFORE YOU, UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE FACTS FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND WHAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN IS THE SPECIFIC REQUEST FOR THIS MASTER PLAN IS A DEVIATION FOR FLOOR AREA RATIO, BUILDING PLACEMENT WITHIN YOUR STREET FRONTAGES, AND THEN ALSO GROUND FLOOR TRANSPARENCY, WHICH ARE SOME OF THE MAIN, UH, DESIGN REGULATIONS OR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS IN THE FORM-BASED CODE FOR THIS PROPERTY.
LOOKING AT THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY, AGAIN, ON BASELINE AND DAY CREEK MARKETPLACE, UH, THIS IS JUST WEST OF THE EXISTING DAY CREEK MARKETPLACE CENTER.
IT'S A VACANT PARCEL, UM, OUTLINE IN THE BLUE IS THE GENERAL OUTLINE OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY OUTLINED IN THE YELLOW IS WHAT THE CODE WOULD REQUIRE TODAY FOR THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, WHICH SPEAKS TO WHAT COULD BE PROVIDED AT MINIMUM ON THE SITE.
UM, ASSUMING IF THE DEVELOPER WERE TO PROPOSE A SINGLE STORY BUILDING, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH OF THE FLOOR AREA IT WOULD
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TAKE UP FOR THE ENTIRE SITE WITHIN THE RED BLOCK IS GENERALLY WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, WHICH IS, UM, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL SUBMITTAL, BUT THE GENERAL IDEA IS TO PROVIDE A USE OR A TENANT THAT WOULD BE MUCH LESS THAN WHAT THE REQUIRED MINIMUM WOULD BE.SO ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS IS WHAT IS A PRO AND WHAT IS A CON OF THIS DEVIATION.
UM, AS SUCH, STAFF HAS NOT IDENTIFIED ANY PROS, UM, AND SUCH.
SOME OF THE CONS INCLUDE THIS TYPE OF DESIGN WOULD LIMIT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD LIMIT JOB GROWTH, UH, WOULD NOT PROVIDE ANY TYPE OF HOUSING STOCK OR WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND WOULD ULTIMATELY LEAD TO UNDER UTILIZATION OF LAND.
UH, THE SECOND DEVIATION REQUESTED SPEAKS TO, AGAIN, THE OUTLINE OF THE BUILDING PROPOSED, WHICH WOULD SPEAK TO THE FRONTAGE AREAS.
SO WE HAVE TWO STREETS THAT THE PROJECT COULD FRONT ON, WHICH WOULD BE BASELINE AND DAY CREEK MARKETPLACE.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TODAY WOULD REQUIRE THOSE FRONTAGES TO BE ACTIVATED AND THAT WOULD BE ACHIEVED BY PROVIDING A BUILDING FOOTPRINT, WHICH NOT NECESSARILY HAS TO FILL UP THE ENTIRE PARCEL, BUT WOULD AT LEAST HAVE SOME SORT OF DESIGN THAT FRONTS ALONG BOTH STREETS.
AND THAT'S TO ENCOURAGE THE, UH, ONE OF THE GENERAL PLAN GOALS AND POLICIES, WHICH IS TO DESIGN FOR PEOPLE FIRST AND TO ACTIVATE THOSE FRONTAGES FOR PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THESE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF SITES WITHIN THE CITY THAT ULTIMATELY IF THE, THE APPLICATION WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TYPE OF DESIGN WOULD RESULT IN THESE, UH, LARGER SITES, WHICH HAVE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT OF A BUILDING WITH EITHER LITTLE TO NO ACTIVATION ALONG THE STREET AND THE UNDER UTILIZATION OF LAND, WHICH LEADS TO, AGAIN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, LIMITATIONS, JOB GROWTH, HOUSING STOCK.
UH, LAST DEVIATION THAT'S REQUESTED IS A MODIFICATION TO REQUIRED GROUND FLOOR TRANSPARENCY.
AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES AS FAR AS, UM, DESIGN, BUT ALSO GOING BACK TO THE GENERAL PLAN STANDARD AND OBJECTIVE AND POLICY FOR DESIGNING FOR PEOPLE FIRST AND HAVING A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN.
UH, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO ACHIEVE IS A DESIGN THAT HAS A BACK OF HOUSE OPERATION, BACK OF BUILDINGS, UM, NON INVITING, NON-FRIENDLY PEDESTRIAN FRONTAGES WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE EYES ON THE STREET AND WHERE THE BUILDINGS ORIENTED INTERIOR TO PARKING LOTS OR DRIVEWAYS.
UH, THIS WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE ACHIEVED IF THE APPLICATION DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD AS PROPOSED AND TAKING A PAGE FROM VICTORIA GARDENS.
UH, THIS IS ALONG MONET AVENUE, WHICH BASICALLY ACHIEVES EVERYTHING THAT THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD REQUIRE.
TODAY WE HAVE STREET FRONTAGE, WE HAVE GROUND FLOOR TRANSPARENCY, AND WE HAVE, UM, FLOOR AREA WHICH PROVIDES FOR THAT PEDESTRIAN ACTIVATION.
YOU HAVE EYES ON THE STREET, YOU STILL HAVE THE ABILITY FOR CIRCULATION AND, UM, CONNECTION, BUT THEN YOU STILL HAVE YOUR, YOUR OVERALL DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR, UH, A COMPREHENSIVE DESIGN.
SO IN CONCLUSION, UH, THE, AGAIN, RECOMMENDATION IS FOR COUNCIL TO PROVIDE COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK AND FOR THE DEVELOPER TO DETERMINE IF THEY WISH TO MOVE FORWARD.
UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS DISCUSSION DOES NOT RESULT IN ANY TYPE OF APPROVAL GUARANTEE OF A FUTURE APPROVAL OR RECOMMENDATION OF A FUTURE APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING? EXCUSE ME.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT WAS REDUCTION IN FLOOR AREA RATIO? THE, THE RED AND THE GREEN OR THE BLUE AND THE YELLOW? MY, IF I'M READING THAT CORRECTLY, THE BLUE IS THE PARCEL, CORRECT? YES.
THE YELLOW IS THE AREA THEY WANT TO DEVELOP.
THE YELLOW IS THE AREA THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE DEVELOPED AT MINIMUM.
AND THE RED IS THE BUILDING ITSELF THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING, CORRECT? YEAH, THE CONSIDERED DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT TO SCALE ALSO, IT'S PRE I GUESS ONE MORE QUESTION THAT THE AREA THAT WE'RE SURROUNDED IN BLUE, IF THAT'S DEVELOPED WITH THE INSIDE THE YELLOW, WHAT'S, IS THERE ANY THOUGHT OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE REST OF THE PARCEL? THE REST OF THE PARCEL WOULD LIKELY BE USED TO EITHER COVER LANDSCAPING, PARKING, UM, AND OTHER ASSOCIATED USES WITH THE BUILDING.
BUT IT WOULD LIKELY BE, IT WOULD LIKELY END UP BEING THE MAJORITY OF WHICH WOULD BE PARKING, LANDSCAPING, AND VEHICLE QUEUING.
BUT I THOUGHT THE BUILDING WAS LIGHT.
UH, WAS, OR THE, THE FACILITY IS DRIVE THROUGH IT.
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IT WOULD BE VEHICLE QUEUING, PARKING, AND THEN RE UH, LANDSCAPING AROUND THE PARKING AREA.ADMINISTRATION, ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER? YES SIR.
CAN YOU HEAR ME ONCE THE SPEAKER GOES? YES.
I'M WITH, UH, THE LANDOWNER LEWIS.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME, SOME BACKGROUND, UH, TO THIS SITE.
UM, THIS IS PART OF A LARGER SHOPPING CENTER THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2015 AND WAS DEVELOPED IN, OPENED IN 2018.
AND THIS PARCEL HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THE SHOPPING CENTER AND PROVIDED CONNECTIVITY BOTH ARCHITECTURALLY THEME WISE TO WHAT THAT SHOPPING CENTER WAS BUILT AND WAS, UM, ARCHITECTURALLY DESIGNED TO, UM, CONVEY.
UM, THE LAST TENANT THAT WE HAD APPROACH US WAS IN 2020, RIGHT BEFORE FEBRUARY OF 2020.
WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION TO THE CITY.
UM, COVID OBVIOUSLY HIT AND UM, THINGS KIND OF STOPPED.
SO WE'VE HAD A CHALLENGE WITH THIS SITE TO FIND SOMEONE IN THIS INFILL LOCATION THAT IS WILLING TO TAKE, UM, ON THE, THE GOAL OF BUILDING SOMETHING HERE, UM, AND MAKING IT SUCCESSFUL IN THE ORIGINAL ENTITLEMENTS.
THIS BUILDING WAS, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT TO SCALE, UH, THIS RED BOX, BUT THE BUILDING ACROSS THE DRY VILE IS A 3,600 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
IT'S A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING AND THE ORIGINAL ENTITLEMENTS HAD THE SAME SIZE BUILDING, UH, IN THE BLUE AREA THAT YOU SEE THAT PARCEL.
IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE A DRIVE-THROUGH IN THE ENTITLEMENTS DOCUMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED IN NOVEMBER OF 2000, UH, 2015.
IT SHOWS THE DRIVE-THROUGH THAT SITS ON BASELINE.
IT SHOWS THE BUILDING AT THE SAME ARCHITECTURE AS THE REST OF THE CENTER.
UM, BUT WE'VE HAD CHALLENGES, LIKE I SAID, AS DEVELOPER GETTING THE MARKET TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE OR GETTING WHERE THE MARKET IS TODAY TO GET A TENANT WILLING TO TAKE THIS, UM, THIS SITE.
UM, WHAT WE'RE SEEING ALSO TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS THAT A LOT OF THESE DRIVE-THROUGH LOCATIONS AT 4,005,000 FEET.
COVID CHANGED A LOT OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WERE.
WE ARE DEALING WITH TENANTS LIKE STARBUCKS WHO ALSO ARE REDUCING THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE, TAKING OUT THEIR DINING SPACE AND GO INTO A KIND OF A DRIVE UP AND GO TYPE OF FACILITY SO THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE IS REDUCING.
UM, AND SO THIS, THIS FORM-BASED CODE THAT IS NOW IN THAT, THAT HAS NOW RESTRICTED THIS SITE TO CERTAIN STANDARDS THAT WAS 2021.
UM, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO, IT'S GONNA CAUSE EXTREME DIFFICULTY IN GETTING A TENANT TO COMPLY WITH THAT.
UM, NOT ONLY ON THE MARKET SIDE AND ATTRACTING TENANTS, BUT WE ALSO DO HAVE CCNRS THAT ARE RECORDED FOR THIS SITE.
THE FORM-BASED CODE IN PUTTING A 20, UH, 12,000 SQUARE, EIGHT TO 12,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS IN VIOLATION OF OUR CCNRS.
WE ARE NOT ALLOWED, UM, USE WISE OR SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE TO BUILD A BUILDING LIKE THAT.
SO IF THE FORM-BASED CODE IS IMPOSED ON US AS A DEVELOPER, THIS SITE WILL REMAIN UNUSED AND VACANT IN PERPETUITY.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN DO AND WORK WITH STAFF AND, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL TO HELP US KEEP OR TO HELP US BUILD SOMETHING OR TO ATTRACT A TENANT THAT WILL BUILD SOMETHING HERE.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LIMITED.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO IF CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF, UM, TELL US THAT WE HAVE TO PUT THAT SIZE OF A BUILDING 'CAUSE WE JUST CAN'T DO IT AS A DEVELOPER.
WE CAN'T DO IT FOR THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE SITE AND WE CAN'T DO IT ACCORDING TO CCNRS.
SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR WITH SOME, FOR SOME DIRECTION, UM, FROM CITY COUNCIL AND FROM STAFF ABOUT HOW WE WORK TOGETHER TO GET SOMETHING BUILT HERE.
THOSE ARE MY, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR, I ACTUALLY I HAVE ONE MR. MAYOR.
UM, THIS IS APPEARS TO BE A SINGLE TENANT BUILDING, CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
UM, HOW ABOUT MULTI-TENANT? I MEAN, WHAT YOU HAVE NEXT DOOR THERE I THINK IS A WBA GRILL.
A WINGS PLACE I THINK OR PIZZA.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, UH, COULD YOU BUILD A MULTI-TENANT DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE? I THINK WE WOULD BE, IF WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ENTITLEMENTS, I THINK WE CAN PURSUE AND EXPLORE A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ENTITLEMENTS, UM, WHERE THIS NEW CODE DOES NOT, UH, ALLOW
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US THE, UM, ABILITY TO DO SO.SO IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PURSUE, IF THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN OPEN UP TO STAFF OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING, I THINK WE WOULD BE OPEN TO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
HOW BIG THE BUILDING IS? WE WERE, WE'RE LIMITED ON OUR CCNRS FOR A 3,600 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
SO ANYTHING BEYOND THAT WE'LL NEVER GET BUILT.
UM, YES, I WAS JUST MAKING A NOTE.
YES, LYNN? OH, NO, GO AHEAD JOHN.
I WAS GOING TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WANTING TO DEVELOP THE AREA AND BRING BUSINESS TO RANCHO CUCAMONGA.
THAT'S ALWAYS VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND IT'S EQUALLY IMPORTANT IN WORKING WITH STAFF.
AND I THINK YOU BROUGHT THAT UP IS WHAT DIRECTION COULD YOU GO IN AND ASK STAFF FOR DIRECTION THAT COMPLIES WITH THE NEW BUILDING REQUIREMENTS AND DEVELOPMENT CODES? MM-HMM.
SO I WAS GONNA ASK MS. NAKAMURA FOR SOME CLARIFICATION, OR, OR JOHN IF YOU COULD GIVE ME SOME ON THE CCNRS AND IF THEY ARE INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT PROPERTY TO LOOK LIKE IN DEVELOPMENT CCNRS ARE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE CCNRS ON THE PROPERTY, UM, WHO PUT THOSE ON THERE? ARE THOSE, WERE, WERE THOSE REQUIRED BY THE CITY, JENNIFER, OR WERE THOSE, IS THIS THE APPLICANT? TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, CCNRS WERE NOT REQUIRED.
I'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ENTITLEMENT, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.
SO MAYBE MR. BRAHAS CAN HELP CLEAR THAT UP FOR US.
I, IT, SO I, I CAN'T, UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE HISTORY, BUT TYPICALLY CCNRS ARE SOMETHING THAT WE RECORD ON ALL OF OUR SHOPPING CENTERS, WHETHER IT'S CITY OR IT'S STILL UP OR IMPOSED BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO, UM, HOLD OUR ATTENDANCE TO CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS SO THAT WAY THEY DON'T.
SO, UH, UH, MAYOR PRO TIM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I MEAN, I WOULD WANNA PULL, WE, WE, WE'D HAVE TO PULL TITLE AND WE'D HAVE TO VERIFY, BUT I, I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE ALONG WITH JENNIFER AND, AND, AND I SPOKE WITH MATT.
WE, WE DO NOT PUT THESE TYPE OF RESTRICTIONS ON THERE.
GENERALLY WHAT WE SEE IS THESE TYPE OF RESTRICTIONS ARE IMPOSED BY TENANTS AFTER OUR ENTITLEMENTS ARE DONE.
UM, AND WE'VE RUN INTO THIS BEFORE WITH RES, CCNRS, ET CETERA.
SO IT WAS PROBABLY PUT ON BY THE APPLICANT.
AND I THINK MR. BRAHAS IS RIGHT.
THEY DO IT TO CONTROL THE USES, HOLD THE TENANTS TO CERTAIN STUFF IN THAT.
UM, BUT IT COMES IN AFTER OUR ENTITLEMENTS.
COULD, COULD, COULD THEY EVER BE MODIFIED OR ELIMINATED SO THAT WE'D HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THE DOCUMENT, HOW IT'S OKAY.
I, I MEAN I WOULDN'T WANNA SPECULATE WITHOUT LOOKING AT IT.
USUALLY THINGS CAN BE MODIFIED, BUT, AND TYPICALLY THE CITY ONLY REQUIRES CCNRS WHERE THERE ARE COMMON AREAS THAT HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED.
IT'S USUALLY, IT USUALLY APPLIES TO HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS IS MOST COMMONLY WHERE THE CITY REQUIRES CCNRS, WHERE THERE'S EITHER COMMON AREAS THAT HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED OR SOME SORT OF, UM, WATER QUALITY AREA THAT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED AS WELL.
WE TYPICALLY DON'T REQUIRE IT FOR COMMERCIAL CENTERS, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT ARE SINGLE OWNERS.
SO MR. BARAJAS, I BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO GET DIRECTION.
BECAUSE I'M NOT INCLINED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES AT THIS POINT.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IS.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WHAT I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO SEE THE CCNRS, BUT TYPICALLY IF THE OWNER STILL OWNS THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE THE DECLARANT UNDER THE CCNRS, THEY WOULD'VE THE AUTHORITY TO MODIFY THEM.
BUT WE NEED TO SEE THEM BEFORE MAKING THAT CONCLUSION.
SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE ELSE THAT WE DESIRES TO SPEAK.
SO WE CAN HAVE MAYBE A DISCUSSION OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.
'CAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS FOR, IS TO GIVE YOU THE, THE, THE APPLICANT AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH OR WHAT WE'RE MAYBE NOT SO COMFORTABLE WITH.
SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL.
AND FOR QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT, LYNN, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME FOR THAT.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT YOUR CCNRS AND BRING THAT TO STAFF SO WE CAN SEE IF ADJUSTMENTS CAN BE MADE ON YOUR END AND THEN WORKING WITH STAFF.
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU BRING THAT BACK AND WORK WITH STAFF? SO IT'S A RECORDED DOCUMENT.
YEAH, YOU CAN KEEP THAT ON FOR HIM.
SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S PUBLIC RECORD, BUT THE CCNRS, UM, TIE A LOT OF THINGS TOGETHER.
IT'S ALSO, UM, A RESTRICTION ON SOME TENANTS WHO REQUIRES TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, THE USES, LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR GREAT CLIPS THAT MAY NOT WANT ANOTHER, LIKE A SPORTS CLIP OR WHATEVER IT
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MAY.SO IT REALLY DEFINES THE RULES FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT RESTRICTIONS, IT'S ALSO ALLOWS IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND TO FLOURISH.
UM, IT ALSO DEFINES SQUARE FOOTAGES, SO IT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE WE CAN, UM, PUT INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER.
AND THAT'S A DESIGN THAT WE QUALIFY PRIOR TO RECORDING AND PRIOR TO BUILDING.
BUT YES, WE CAN, TO ANSWER A QUESTION.
MR. MAYOR, IF I CAN JUST ADD, SO THIS IS HELPFUL.
UM, WE GENERALLY FIND THEM UNDER THE TERM RES REAL ESTATE AGREEMENTS.
UM, WE HAVE CENTERS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE THESE TYPE OF DOCUMENTS RECORDED THAT PROHIBIT RESIDENTIAL, THAT PROHIBIT COFFEE SHOPS, THAT PROHIBIT ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
AND THEY'RE ALL DONE AFTER OUR ENTITLEMENTS.
THEY'RE DONE BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THEIR OWN REASONS.
AND WE, IF, IF, UM, WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT COMING UP WITH SITE SPECIFIC DESIGN STANDARDS BASED ON CCNRS THAT ARE RECORDED BY THE OWNERS AFTER OUR ENTITLEMENT, NEARLY EVERY COMMERCIAL CENTER IN THIS ENTIRE CITY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR SPECIFIC DESIGN STANDARDS BECAUSE IT'S, WE, WE SEE THIS ALL THE TIME.
UM, BUT THEY ALWAYS COME IN POST OUR ENTITLEMENTS AND USUALLY WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.
WE DO NOT HAVE THE TIME AND EXPENSE TO GO PULL CCNRS FOR EVERY PROPERTY IN THE CITY.
AND THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO TELL US WHEN THEY RECORD THEM IN THAT.
SO WE DON'T USUALLY FIND OUT TILL THEY COME BACK AGAIN TO DO SOME ENTITLEMENT.
AND THERE'S SOME REASON TO LOOK AT CHAIN OF TITLE FOR THE PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT MY INTENT FOR US TO MAKE CHANGES BASED ON THEIR CCNRS.
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHEN HE BROUGHT THAT UP THAT THERE WAS A CONFLICT WHERE THAT CONFLICT WOULD ORIGINATE.
AND SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE CCNRS BECAUSE IT USUALLY HAS TO DO WITH NON-COMPETITION.
YOU DON'T WANT THREE PIZZA PARLORS IN A ROW AND TWO HAIR SALONS.
IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT THE LANDLORD WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT LOOK WHAT THAT SHOPPING CENTER REPRESENT AND THE TYPE OF DIVERSITY IN BUSINESSES.
AND OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE IS TO DESIGN WITH PEOPLE FIRST AND THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MET BASED ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO AGAIN, I AM NOT GONNA HASH WHAT, UH, MAYOR PROTE SAID ABOUT THE CC NR, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE GENERAL PLAN WAS DESIGNED FOR THE PEOPLE, IT WAS APPROVED BY THE PEOPLE.
SO I WOULD HOPE WE CAN DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT IS FOR THE PEOPLE.
AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIMITING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE JOB GROWTH THAT THIS POTENTIAL SITE 8,000 SQUARE FEET COULD HAVE.
I MEAN, UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT SURE, IT MAY NOT BE THE TENANT THAT, UH, YOU HAVE IN MIND RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T MIND WAITING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THE RIGHT TENANT FOR THAT SITE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ALL SAID.
UM, I THINK THAT WE WERE VERY CLEAR ON OUR VISION, UM, MOVING FORWARD IN THE GENERAL PLAN, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO DEVIATE FROM THAT.
UM, I THINK IT'S DONE PHENOMENAL JOB AND IT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO GO, UM, AND OUR FUTURE.
SO MAKING ANY ADJUSTMENTS ISN'T SOMETHING I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF.
JUST, UM, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHEN YOU DEVELOPED THE OTHER SITE, WHETHER THAT'S THE, WHERE THE STATER BROTHERS IS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THAT WHOLE SHOPPING CENTER, WHAT WAS THE REASON WHY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT OTHER PARCEL AT THE SAME TIME? TO MAKE IT ALL ONE DEVELOPMENT? JUST THE MARKET AT THE TIME.
SO WE PROCEED FORWARD WITH THAT'S FAIR.
AND THIS IS A CHALLENGING INFILL SITE.
UM, AGAIN, WHEN THE SHOPPING CENTER WAS BUILT, THE CODE WAS DIFFERENT.
IN 2015, THIS SITE WAS APPROVED AT 3,600 SQUARE FEET AND A DRIVE THROUGH.
AND WE HAVE THAT IN OUR ENTITLEMENTS DOCUMENTS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S BEEN CHALLENGING TO LEASE UP TO THIS POINT.
AND WHEN THE CODE CHANGED IN 21, THAT'S, IT KINDA CHANGED THE DIRECTION OF THIS PARCEL.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, I WANTED TO FIND THAT OUT.
AND THEN I WANTED TO ASK STAFF WHEN HE, WHEN THE, THE, THE APPLICANT FIRST STARTED HIS PRESENTATION, HE MENTIONED THAT THE SITE WAS ALWAYS, UH, IN 2015 IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A DRIVE THROUGH SITE FOR DRIVE THROUGH, BUT THAT CHANGED WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN.
UPDATED ALL THE ORIGINAL, I TRUTHFULLY, MAYOR, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT THE ORIGINAL ENTITLEMENTS INCLUDED THERE.
IT MAY VERY WELL HAVE INCLUDED THE POSSIBILITY OF A FUTURE DRIVE-THROUGH SITE.
HOWEVER, SINCE THEY NEVER CONSTRUCTED THAT SITE, THEY'RE NOW SUBJECT TO THE NEW CODE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN I HAVE THEM IF YOU NEED THEM, MAYOR, JUST, I BROUGHT THEM WITH ME THE DOCUMENTS.
UM, I, I'VE GOT I GUESS THREE ISSUES.
ONE, UH, YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE STAFF REPORT.
I KIND OF CONCUR WHETHER STAFF IS SOME OF THEIR, WHETHER THEIR CONCERNS IN JUST ABOUT EVERY
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AREA.UH, SO I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT NEED TO KIND OF GO BACK AND SAY IF IT'S MULTI-TENANT USE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WE CAN DO? MM-HMM.
WHAT, WHAT KIND OF ECONOMIC RETURN ARE WE GONNA GET ON THE SITE? MM-HMM.
UM, WE ARE VERY MUCH TRYING TO DO PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGNS RATHER THAN AUTO ORIENTED DESIGNS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN REMEMBER, UH, SOME SITES THAT, THAT ARE ON FOOTHILL WHERE THERE WAS DRIVE THROUGHS WERE PACKED WITH CARS IN, IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT LINES, BLOCKING AREAS TO GO INTO PARK TO GO INTO THE FACILITY.
SO I, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU, I THINK WITH THE INPUT FROM, FROM THE COUNCIL MM-HMM.
ANYTHING ELSE MR. MAYOR? IF I CAN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, WE HAVE STAFF HAS NOT TRIED TO, TO NOT HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH HERE.
IN FACT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE PROMOTED THIS SITE AS AVAILABLE FOR A DRIVE THROUGH.
SO THE ISSUE IS FOR US IS STAFF'S, ONE OF STAFF'S CONCERNS IS NOT THE DRIVE THROUGH.
WE SUPPORT A DRIVE THROUGH USE THERE.
I THINK, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER HUTCHINSON POINTED QUITE RIGHTLY AT THE BUILDING ACROSS, AND IT'S A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH.
AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT RATHER THAN, BUT JUST A SITE WITH A SINGULAR DRIVE THROUGH IS NOT SOMETHING CORRECT THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE.
SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING EVERYONE CORRECTLY, IF WE HAD THE ORIGINAL PLAN OF A 30 604,000 SQUARE FOOT MULTI-TENANT BUILDING WITH THE DRIVE THROUGH, THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE OR THAT WOULD BE MORE UNDER, UH, UH, YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT? I THINK 3,600 WOULD BE A LITTLE SMALL.
I'D PROBABLY SHOOT FOR SOMETHING LARGER THAN THAT.
UM, AND WHAT COMES TO MIND TO ME IS JUST SOMETHING THAT LOOKS KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT'S NEXT DOOR.
UM, SO THAT ONE'S 3,600 FEET REALLY PLUS OKAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE ENTITLED ABOUT 4,000 FEET.
I I THINK IF YOU WENT BACK TO THAT, YOU WOULD BE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE'D NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
BUT IT'S HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS OPPOSED TO JUST A SINGULAR SMALL USE AND MOSTLY PARKING.
I GUESS WHAT'S PROBABLY GETTING ME THERE IS, LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS NOT TO SCALE SO THAT THAT SMALL RED, UH, THAT'S NOT A RECTANGLE.
SO THAT'S HELPFUL FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THEN.
THEN, THEN, THEN 3,600 SQUARE FOOT DOESN'T SOUND COMPLETELY OUTRAGEOUS.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT 0.9 ACRES AND LOOKING AT THAT SMALL RED BOX AND THOSE DIDN'T QUITE JIVE, BUT THANK YOU.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING, BUT I THINK WE WOULD BE OPEN TO IT.
I THINK OUR, OUR CONCERN IS IF WE HAVE TO DO AN 8,000 OR 12,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH A DRIVE THROUGH ONE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE CHALLENGING AS IT IS.
BUT, UM, I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, I THINK WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT OR A MIDDLE GROUND WORKING WITH STAFF IF WE CAN SOMEHOW MIRROR THE BUILDING ACROSS THE DRIVE AISLE, I THINK WE'LL GET CLOSER TO, YOU KNOW, BUILDING SOMETHING HERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON RIGHT NOW.
I I THINK WHEN, WHEN I WAS TOLD THAT THE BACK AREA IN THE UP BEYOND THE, THE YELLOW WOULD BE LANDSCAPING AND, AND PARKING.
I THOUGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S KIND OF A POOR USE OF, OF VALUABLE PROPERTY RIGHT ON BASELINE.
AND MR. MAYOR, IF I CAN TO, YOU KNOW, I USUALLY DON'T SPEAK MUCH ON THESE MATTERS, BUT, UM, UH, UNLESS THEY HAVE SOMETHING IN THE CCNRS, WE DON'T PROHIBIT THEM TO JUST A ONE STORY BUILDING.
SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ONE STORY BUILDING ACROSS THE WAY.
UH, WE HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL SHOPPING CENTER AT ROCHESTER AND FOOTHILL ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER THAT HAS, AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBER HUTCHINSON'S FAMILIAR WITH IT.
IT HAS, UH, COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL.
NOT ALL OF THEM ARE THE SAME, UH, DOWN BELOW.
AND THEN IT HAS SOME WELL OCCUPIED OFFICE UP ABOVE.
UM, THAT COULD GET YOU, YOU KNOW, UM, WITH THE FOOTPRINT OF A 3,600, UH, SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, BUT GET CLOSER TO, YOU KNOW, SIX OR 7,000 SQUARE FEET AND WE'D BE RIGHT THERE.
SO WE'RE, WE WILL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO PROBLEM SOLVE WITH THE APPLICANT.
WE JUST NEED TO, TO, TO HEAD TOWARDS A LARGER NUMBER RATHER THAN A SMALLER NUMBER.
WE'LL, PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER? THERE WAS NO DECISION HERE.
IT'S JUST FEEDBACK AND, AND, AND RESPONSE.
SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR STEPPING UP TO THE PODIUM.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO ADVERTISE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM(S) - CITY/FIRE DISTRICT]
AND I'M GOING TO, UH, ASK MR. GILLISON TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY WHY WE'RE PASSING ON THIS.IT'S BEEN POSTPONED, BUT THEN ALSO IT MAY HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN.
[G1. THIS PUBLIC HEARING WILL NOT BE HEARD TONIGHT. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE OF THE APPEAL HEARING. A NEW PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WILL BE DISTRIBUTED IF AND WHEN THE HEARING WILL OCCUR. Consideration of an Appeal of the Planning Commission's Decision to Approve Design Review DRC2022-00379 – Fore Property, Applicant. The Project is a Site Plan/Architectural Review for a Mixed-Use Development Comprising of 308 Residential Units and 14,704 Square Feet of Commercial Space Within the Center 1 (Ce1) Zone, Located at the Northeast Corner of Foothill Boulevard and Grove Avenue. A CEQA Section 15183 Compliance Memorandum has Been Completed for This Project. APNs: 0207-011-35, 36, 41, 43, 44, and 45. (CITY) ]
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SO, UM, AS INDICATED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR, UM, AN APPEAL.IT WAS AN APPEAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION TO APPROVE DRC 2022 DASH 0 0 3 7 9.
THE APPLICANT WAS FOR PROPERTY.
THE PROJECT WAS AN ARCHITECTURAL REV OR WAS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT OF 308 UNITS AND, UM, ALMOST 15,000 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE.
AND IT WAS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FOOTHILL BOULEVARD AND GROVE.
THE ITEM WAS CONTINUED TONIGHT AS, UM, UH, THE, UH, WHILE THE APPELLANT WAS AVAILABLE, UM, THE, THE APPLICANT OR THE PROPERTY OWNER, EXCUSE ME, WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
UH, BUT THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THIS AFTERNOON WE RECEIVED OFFICIAL WRITTEN NOTIFICATION, UM, FROM THE APPELLANT, WHICH WAS RED HILL COUNTRY CLUB, UM, THAT THEY HAVE RESOLVED.
UH, THEIR CONCERNS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER AND, UH, THAT THEY ARE WITHDRAWING THEIR APPEAL.
SO, UM, UH, IT WAS CONTINUED TONIGHT BECAUSE OF SOME UNAVAILABILITY, UM, BUT IT WILL NOT BE COMING BACK.
THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN THEIR APPEAL.
OUR NEXT ITEM, G TWO, IS CONSIDERATION OF A
[G2. Consideration of a Resolution Adopting the Fire District's General Fund Final Budget for Fiscal Year 2024/25. (RESOLUTION NO. FD 2024-022) (FIRE)]
RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE FIRE DISTRICT GENERAL FUND FINAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 20 25.AND THAT, AND MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL, AS YOU KNOW, YOU
UM, AS IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANYTHING HERE.
WE'RE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE 'EM, BUT THIS IS THE FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD, UM, ASK THAT AFTER THE HEARING, YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, UH, TO, FOR THE FIRE DISTRICT'S, UH, GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 25.
ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR CITY MANAGER BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HERE THIS EVENING THAT WISHES TO TALK ABOUT THE FIRE DISTRICT'S GENERAL FUND FINAL BUDGET APPROVAL? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER FD 2024 DASH 0 22 ADOPTING THE FIRE DISTRICT GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024.
SO MOVED SECOND FOR A MOTION, PLEASE VOTE.
OUR NEXT ITEM, I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER AT ANOTHER PUBLIC
[G3. Public Hearing of the City of Rancho Cucamonga to Consider Resolutions Confirming the Diagrams and Assessments and Ordering the Levy and Collection of Annual Assessments for Landscape Maintenance Districts; Street Lighting Maintenance Districts; and Park and Recreation Improvement District No. PD-85 for Fiscal Year 2024/25. (RESOLUTION NOS. 2024-078, 2024-079 AND 2024-080) (CITY)]
HEARING.YES, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
SO G THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA TO CONSIDER THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WOULD CONFIRM THE DIAGRAMS AND ASSESSMENTS AND ORDER THE LEVYING COLLECTION OF THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS FOR OUR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE DISTRICTS, OUR STREET LIGHTING MAINTENANCE DISTRICTS, AND OUR PARK AND RECREATION IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER PD 85, ALL OF THOSE FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 25.
YOU HAVE, UH, THREE RESOLUTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU.
2024 DASH 7 8 0 7 9 AND 0 8 0.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO OUR FINANCE MANAGER, RICK FLIN, AND HE'LL GIVE THE STAFF REPORT AND THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UM, EACH YEAR PER UH, THE LANDSCAPE AND LIGHTING ACT OF 1972, THE CITY HOLDS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE LEVY OF ASSESSMENTS FOR, UM, AS MR. GILSON MENTIONED, THE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE DISTRICTS, THE STREET LIGHTING MAINTENANCE DISTRICTS, AND THE PARK AND RECREATION IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OF PD 85.
UM, AT THE JUNE 5TH COUNCIL MEETING, YOU RECEIVED THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERS REPORTS SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT TO OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ANY INPUT RELATING TO THE ASSESSMENTS ON THESE DISTRICTS.
THEREFORE, THE ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS TO OPEN THE UP PUBLIC HEARING, TAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN TAKE A VOTE ON THE RESOLUTIONS TO CONFIRM THEIR LEVY.
UH, THE APPROVAL OF THESE RESOLUTIONS WILL ALLOW US TO SUBMIT THE TAX ROLL TO SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY AND MEET OUR DEADLINE, UH, FOR TAX DEADLINE, UH, IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST.
AND WITH THAT, I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SEEING NONE, WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC HERE THIS EVENING THAT WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THE LEVY OF ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS AND, AND OUR PARKS DISTRICT PD 85 STREET LIGHTING LANDSCAPE.
AND JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE BUDGETS FOR ALL OF THESE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THIS IS JUST THE, THE OFFICIAL ACTION TO GENERATE THE REVENUE NECESSARY TO OPERATE ALL THOSE FACILITIES.
UM, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
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ANY FURTHER COMMENT? OTHERWISE, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTIONS NUMBER 2024 DASH 0 7 8 DASH 0 7 9 DASH 0 8 0 CONFIRMING THE DIAGRAMS AND ASSESSMENTS AND ORDERING THE LEVY AND COLLECTION OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS FOR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE DISTRICTS, STREET LIGHTING, MAINTENANCE DISTRICTS, AND PARK AND RECREATION IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT PD 85 FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 24 25.DO I HAVE A MOTIONS MOVE FOR APPROVAL? SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
AND NOW ITEM G FOUR, ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING,
[G4. Public Hearing to Consider Adoption of Resolutions Making Determinations Regarding the Proposed Annexation of Territory, Annexation 88-24-1, Adoption of Resolution Calling a Special Election, and Adoption of Resolution Declaring Results of a Special Election in Community Facilities District No. 88-1. (RESOLUTION NO. FD 2024-020 AND RESOLUTION NO. FD 2024-021) (FIRE)]
OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE EVENING.UH, MR. SISON? YES, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO, UH, ITEM G FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT WOULD, UM, CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTIONS REGARDING THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN TERRITORY.
AND THAT'S ANNEXATION 88 DASH 24 DASH ONE, UM, AND ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION CALLING A SPECIAL ELECTION, AND THEN ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION DECLARING THE RESULTS OF THE SPECIAL ELECTIONS FOR CFD 88 1.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL INTRODUCE OUR FIRE PREVENTION SUPERVISOR, SHANE ADAMS FOR THE STAFF REPORT.
TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANNEXATION 88 DASH 24 DASH ONE IS A PROCEDURAL ELEMENT TO ANNEX PROPERTY INTO EXISTING FIRE CFD 88 DASH ONE AS A CONDITION OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO SATISFY FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES.
THE PROPERTY OWNER OF PARCEL NUMBER 0 2 2 5 DASH 22 DASH SEVEN ONE A 1.17 ACRE DEVELOPED PARCEL AT 1 2 9 7 4 BANYAN STREET WISHES TO ANNEX THEIR PROPERTY INTO CFD 88 DASH ONE.
THE PROJECT IS A DEMOLITION OF EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND DETACHED RV GARAGE.
THE PROPERTY OWNER FULLY SUPPORTS THE ANNEXATION AND HAVE CONSENTED TO THE SPECIAL TAX SELECTION TO BE HELD TONIGHT.
A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED FOR THE ANNEXATION PROCEDURES AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING RESOLUTION NUMBER FD 2024 DASH ZERO TWO, CALLING FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION AND AUTHORIZING THE LE LEVY OF SPECIAL TAXES ON THE PROPERTY CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR ADOPTION.
IF THAT RESOLUTION IS APPROVED, RESOLUTION NUMBER FD 2024 DASH 0 21 DECLARING THE ELECTION RESULTS AND THE ANNEXATION OF THE PROPERTY INTO CFD 88 DASH ONE CAN THEN BE CONSIDERED FOR ADOPTION BY THE FIRE BOARD.
AT THIS TIME, THE FIRE BOARD CAN CHOOSE TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC, PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ASK STAFF ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
OKAY, THERE'S A CERTAIN PROTOCOL FOR THESE KINDS OF ANNEXATIONS.
SO I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF OF THINGS THAT I HAVE TO ASK THE COURT CLERK AND SO WE'LL GO THROUGH.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, MADAM CLERK, MAY YOU CONFIRM THAT NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING WAS MAILED AND PUBLISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH LAW.
THE NOTICE WAS MAILED AND PUBLISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN TO PROTESTS, COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM INTERESTED PERSONS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING PERSONS OWNING THE PROPERTY WITHIN ANNEXATION NUMBER 88 DASH 24 DASH ONE OF COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT NUMBER 88 DASH ONE.
IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO ADDRESS THE FIRE BOARD ON THIS MATTER? PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OF STAFF? IF NOT MADAM CLERK, HAVE ANY PROTESTS BEEN RECEIVED FOR THE NO PROTESTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED? MADAM CLERK, ARE ANY PERSONS REGISTERED TO VOTE WITHIN ANNEXATION NUMBER 88 DASH 24 DASH ONE OF COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT NUMBER 88 DASH ONE AND IF SO, THE NUMBER THEREOF? NO.
THE COUNTY OF SAN BERNARDINO REGISTER OF VOTERS OFFICE HAS CERTIFIED THAT THERE'S NO REGISTERED VOTERS WITHIN ANNEXATION NUMBER 88 DASH 24 DASH ONE OF COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT 88 DASH ONE.
AND MADAM CLERK HAS THE OWNER OF ALL THE TAXABLE PROPERTY IN ANNEXATION 88 DASH 24 DASH ONE OF COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT EIGHT.
NUMBER 88 DASH ONE CONSENTED TO HOLDING A SPECIAL ELECTION ON THIS NIGHT, JULY 17TH, 2024? YES.
AND HAS, DO YOU CONCUR THAT THE SPECIAL ELECTION MAY BE HELD TODAY, JANUARY, JULY 27, JULY 17TH, 2024? YES, IT MAY.
OKAY, WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER FD 2024 DASH 0 2 0.
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PLEASE.MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY NOW I WILL CONDUCT THE SPECIAL ELECTION.
THE OFFICIAL BALLOT HAS BEEN OPENED AND ALL VOTES ARE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSITION PRESENTED ON THE BALLOT.
SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION FD 2024 DASH 0 21 DECLARING THE RESULTS OF THE SPECIAL ELECTION IN COMMUNITIES FACILITIES DISTRICT NUMBER 88 DASH ONE FOR ANNEXATION NUMBER 88 DASH 24 DASH ONE.
THANK YOU MADAM CLERK AND CITY COUNCIL.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE CITY MANAGER.
[H. CITY MANAGER'S STAFF REPORT(S)]
YES, MR.[H1. Presentation from Empire Economics Inc. on the City’s Annual Employment and Housing Trends Study and Analysis of the Economic Impacts of Brightline West High-Speed Rail and Potential for Nearby Development Opportunities. This Item is Not a Project as Defined by the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and is Therefore Exempt from CEQA Review. (CITY)]
MAYOR AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.SO, UM, OUR LAST, UH, MAIN ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU IS AN I UH, ITEM WE TAKE EVERY YEAR.
AND SO FOR, AS THE MAYOR KNOWS, WELL FOR, UM, A NUMBER OF DECADES, UM, ALTHOUGH YOU CERTAINLY WOULDN'T KNOW DR.
JANICK, LUKES IS TIMELESS AS ALWAYS, BUT FOR A NUMBER OF DECADES WE HAVE WORKED WITH HIM AND HE'S PROVIDED US A LOT OF ECONOMIC STUDIES ON THE CITY.
AND, UM, THOSE ECONOMIC STUDIES ARE REALLY HELPFUL TO US.
WE USE THEM, UH, IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOUSING TRENDS AND STUFF.
WE USE THEM FOR BUDGET TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR, UM, SOME OF OUR TRENDS ON WHERE EMPLOYMENT AND THINGS ARE GOING.
UM, AND WE, UH, MOST RECENTLY HAVE ASKED HIM TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE, UM, BRIGHT LINE WEST IMPACTS AND, AND GIVE US A SECOND OR THIRD OPINION, IF YOU WILL, FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE.
SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM DR.
IT'S ON OUR ANNUAL EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING TREND STUDY.
UM, WE ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, ASKED HIM TO ANALYZE THE IMPACTS OF BRIGHT LINE WEST AND THE HIGH SPEED RAIL AND WHAT THAT MAY MEAN FOR SOME ADDITIONAL POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
SO, UM, WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, DR.
JANICK AND WE CAN GO THROUGH WITH YOU AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE AT THE END.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, CERTAINLY A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AGAIN THIS YEAR.
IT'S ALWAYS EXCITING TO, UH, BE PART OF YOUR CITY WITH THE VISION THAT IT'S HAD OVER THE DECADES AND LOOKING FORWARD AS WELL.
UH, TWO FASCINATING ASPECTS OF WHAT'S GOING ON, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, HOUSING MARKET.
SPECIFIC DATA FOR THE CITY SHOWS THAT, UH, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, UH, PRICES HAVE GONE UP APPROXIMATELY 44%.
AND ALSO IN THAT SAME TIME PERIOD, MORTGAGE RATES HAVE GONE UP FROM 3% TO 7%.
SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING THERE.
AND THEN, UH, SECONDLY, WITH RESPECT TO BRIGHT LINE WEST, WHAT'S FASCINATING THERE IS A LOT OF FOCUS ON PEOPLE EMBARKING FROM THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA TO LAS VEGAS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE LOOK AT.
BUT ADDITIONALLY, WE TAKE A LOOK AT PEOPLE WHO ARE IN LAS VEGAS USING BRIGHT LINE WEST TO COME TO THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA AND WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITY THAT MIGHT PROVIDE THE CITY WITH.
OKAY, THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UH, CITY MANAGER, UH, YES, I HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR A WHILE, BUT MY SECRET IS I STARTED WHEN I WAS 12.
UH, SO OUR FIRST GRAPHIC, UH, SO WE, WE, WE, LET'S SEE.
WE'RE GONNA FIRST LOOK AT THE ANNUAL ECONOMIC AND HOUSING STUDY AND FIRST WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT EMPLOYMENT IN THE CITY.
UH, WE HAVE TWO GRAPHS HERE THAT, UH, DEAL WITH EMPLOYMENT.
STARTING ON THE LEFT WITH THE AGGREGATE LEVEL OF EMPLOYMENT, UH, WE TAKE A LOOK AT CITIES, THE CITY'S EMPLOYMENT, UH, BETWEEN 2018 AND FORECASTED OUT TO 2030.
ON THE LEFT HAND AXIS, WE HAVE THE AGGREGATE LEVEL OF EMPLOYMENT.
ON THE BOTTOM, WE HAVE THE YEARS 2018 TO 2030.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, A DOTTED, UH, VERTICAL LINE SHOWING, UH, WHERE WE ARE AT AND THEN WHERE WE EXPECT TO BE.
WE CAN SEE BETWEEN 2018 AND 2023, WE HAD QUITE AN IMPACT FROM, UH, COVID.
IN FACT, IF WE LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF EMPLOYMENT WE HAD IN 2018, AROUND
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74,000, AND WE, WHERE WE ARE IN 2023, THE MOST RECENT DATA AVAILABLE AT 79,000, WE ACTUALLY INCREASED, UH, DESPITE THE DIP TO WHERE WE WOULD'VE BEEN ON A TYPICAL BASIS, UH, THEREAFTER, UH, LOOKING AHEAD FROM 2023 TO 2030, APPROXIMATELY A 12,800 MORE, UH, EM EMPLOYMENT, UH, JOBS.AND A LOT OF THAT COMES FROM THE, UH, 2,800 JOBS THAT WILL BE CREATED BY THE SOME 4.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION.
SO, SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE, AN OVERVIEW OF, UH, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, AND IT, IT LOOKS FAVORABLE FOR THE FUTURE.
THE ACTUAL MODEL ON OUR NEXT GRAPH, UH, BREAKS THIS OUT BY SECTOR.
UH, SO WHAT WE HAVE ON THIS GRAPH ON THE VERTICAL AXIS IS THE PERCENTAGE OF EMPLOYMENT THAT IS IN EACH OF THE MAJOR SECTORS.
UH, AND WE HAVE, UH, THREE, UH, BARS, ONE FOR 2018, ANOTHER ONE FOR 2023, AND THEN FOR 2030, UH, WE PROVIDED THIS MODEL ALSO TO THE, UH, CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
WE GO THROUGH SECTOR BY SECTOR LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL GROWTH, AND THEN WE AGGREGATE THAT, UH, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
TO SUMMARIZE IT, WHEN WE COMPARE 2030 TO 2018, THE HIGHEST SHARE GAINS ARE IN ADMINISTRATIVE AND SUPPORT SERVICES, PLUS 8% AS A SHARE.
TRANSPORTATION AND WAREHOUSING INCREASING ITS SHARE BY 2%.
WHOLESALE TRADE INCREASING, ITS SHARE BY 3%.
THE GREATEST LOSSES, UH, MANUFACTURING ITS SHARE IN 2030, BEING MINUS 6% BELOW WHAT IT WAS IN 2018.
A RE RETAIL TRADE MINUS 4%, CONSTRUCTION MINUS 2%, AND FINANCE AND, AND INSURANCE MINUS 2%.
SO THIS IS ACTUAL DATA FOR THE CITY COMPILED SPECIFICALLY BY THE EMPLOYMENT DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT BASED UPON THE FIRMS WITHIN THE CITY.
ON OUR NEXT GRAPHIC, UH, WE HAVE HERE A COMPARISON OF HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS ARE EMPLOYED AND HOW MANY FIRMS HAVE JOBS WITHIN THE CITY.
SO ON OUR GRAPH, UH, LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
WE HAVE, UH, EMPLOYMENT ON THE LEFT HAND AXI, AND WE HAVE YEARS GOING FROM, UH, 2000 OUT TO, UH, 2030.
STARTING OUT AT THE FAR LEFT, IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT WORKING HOUSEHOLDS.
PARDON ME, JOE, THE SLIDE DID NOT CHANGE HERE.
OH, THAT'S 'CAUSE I'M CONTROLLING IT THIS TIME,
I'LL BREAK THAT HABIT TONIGHT,
LET'S START WITH THIS GRAPH AGAIN.
WE HAVE EMPLOYMENT ON THE LEFT HAND AXIS, AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM, YOURS FROM 2000 TO 2030.
WITHIN THE GRAPH, THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS HOUSEHOLDS RESIDING IN RANCHO CUCAMONGA THAT ARE WORKING POSSIBLY IN A CITY, POSSIBLY ELSEWHERE.
AND THEN THE GREEN LINE REPRESENTS SPECIFICALLY FIRMS THAT ARE IN THE CITY AND THE NUMBER OF JOBS THAT THEY CREATE.
SO IF WE GO BACK TO 2000, WE SEE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS WORKING.
WERE 37,000 MORE THAN THE NUMBER OF JOBS AVAILABLE IN THE CITY.
AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, WE SEE IN 2023, UH, THE, THE LINES CHANGE AND THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 'EM DIMINISHES.
AND IF WE GO TO THE FAR RIGHT, UH, THE FORECAST OUT TO 2030, UH, WE HAVE A DIFFERENTIAL OF 13 JOBS, MEANING AS THE CITY MATURES OVER TIME, MORE, UH, JOBS ARE CREATED WITHIN THE CITY.
AND WITH RESPECT TO HOUSING, AS WE KNOW, WE HAD THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS, UH, TERRA VISTA AND VICTORIA GARDENS BACK THEN, AND NOW THERE'S MOSTLY INFILL WITHIN THE CITY FOR, FOR RESIDENTIAL.
SO IT, IT, IT, IT'S MOVING AS A STRONG EMPLOYMENT BASE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
UH, ON OUR NEXT GRAPH, UH, THIS IS QUITE A FASCINATING ONE.
UH, WE HAVE ON THE TOP PART OF THE GRAPH, WE HAVE A BLUE BAR THAT SHOWS BY HOW MUCH HOME PRICES INCREASED OVER TIME.
SO WITHIN THE GRAPH, UH, WE READ THAT PRICE ON THE RIGHT HAND AXI, AND WE CAN SEE THAT IT STARTED TO GO UP IN ABOUT 2020 SLIGHTLY, BUT THEN ACCELERATED FURTHER.
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AND IN 2023 DECEMBER IT REACHED 46%.THAT MEANS HOUSING PRICES WITHIN THE CITY, BASED UPON DATA SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY, HAVE INCREASED 46% OVER THE PAST, UH, SEVERAL YEARS.
SO WHAT'S THE CAUSE OF THAT? WE GO TO THE, UH, BOTTOM PORTION OF THE GRAPH, AND ON THE BOTTOM PORTION, AGAIN, CITY FOR THE DATA, UH, SHOWS WITH THE REDDISH LINE, THE HOUSING INVENTORY, NUMBER OF HOMES AVAILABLE FOR SALE, AND THE GREEN LINE, THE LEVEL OF DEMAND FOR HOMES.
SO STARTING OUT ON THE LEFT, UH, PRE COVID, WE COULD SEE THAT THE RED LINE, THE INVENTORY WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE LEVEL OF DEMAND.
AND SO THAT MEANT PEOPLE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT VARIOUS HOMES ON A REASONABLE BASIS AND HAVE TIME TO PURCHASE AND MOVE AND SELL THEIR EXISTING HOME.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET INTO, UH, UH, COVID, UH, COVID, UH, STARTING WHERE THE DASH LINE IS, UH, WE SEE THAT THE, THE LEVEL OF, UH, INVENTORY GOES DOWN.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE RELUCTANT TO MOVE AND HAVE OPEN HOUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WAS THE INITIAL IMPETUS, AND WE SEE THAT FOR THOSE TWO LINES START OVER TIME TO GET VERY TIGHT.
AND IF WE GO TO THE, UH, FAR RIGHT, WE SEE THAT THEY CONVERGE, MEANING THAT WHATEVER IS AVAILABLE IS BID UP, UH, AND, AND SOLD, UH, QUICKLY.
HOW LONG WILL THAT LAST? I'LL GIVE AN ANSWER TO THAT IN THE FORTHCOMING GRAPHS.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS SUCH A UNIQUE SITUATION TO HAVE HOUSING PRICES GO UP BY 46% WHILE MORTGAGE RATES GO FROM THREE TO 7%.
OKAY, ON OUR NEXT GRAPHIC, GOOD ON THE LEFT HAND AXIS, UH, HERE WE HAVE AN ANNUAL HOUSING PAYMENT, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF THE MORTGAGE, UH, BROKEN DOWN BY THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT, AND THEN THE INTEREST AMOUNT.
AND WE ALSO HAVE PROPERTY TAXES.
SO STARTING OUT, UH, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE GRAPH WHERE WE START IN THE YEAR 2018, UH, WE HAVE A DASH LINE GOING ACROSS, MEANING THAT THE ANNUAL HOUSING PAYMENT WAS ABOUT $40,000 PER YEAR FOR A TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD IN THE CITY.
ALL OF THIS IS BASED ON CITY DATA.
SO THAT WAS 40,000 AS WE GOT INTO, UH, COVID AND THE SUPPLY DIMINISHED, AS WE SAW IN THE PRIOR GRAPH, THE, UH, PRICE OF HOUSE, THE, THE MORTGAGE, UH, AND THE, AND THE MORTGAGE RATES WENT UP.
WE SEE THAT WITHIN THE GRAPH, UH, THE LE LEVEL OF ORANGE AREA INCREASES SIGNIFICANTLY, MEANING HIGHER INTEREST RATES HAVE HIGHER, UH, MORTGAGE RATE PAYMENTS.
TAKE A LOOK AT THE PART OF THE PEAK THERE IN DECEMBER OF 2023, WHERE WE ARE AT A, AN ANNUAL PAYMENT OF $60,000.
SO THAT'S $20,000 ABOVE WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BEFORE COVID.
IF WE LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT YELLOW ORANGE AREA, WE HAVE A TERM, A, A PHRASE IN THEIR SAVINGS WITH LOW MORTGAGE RATE.
THAT MEANS THE PEOPLE WHO REFINANCED OR PURCHASED WITH THE 3% RATES NOW ENJOY AN ADVANTAGE OF ABOUT $20,000, THE 60,000 MINUS THE 40.
AND THEY ONLY HAVE THAT ADVANTAGE TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY REMAIN IN THEIR CURRENT UNITS.
'CAUSE THE MORTGAGE IS TIED TO THE CURRENT UNIT.
IT DOES NOT CONVEY WITH THE PURCHASE OF A NEW UNIT.
SO THAT IS A HUGE WINDFALL TO THOSE, UH, PURCHASERS.
I, ON A, ON A US LEVEL, THE MORTGAGE MARKET IS $12 TRILLION.
THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAD MORTGAGES EXISTING THAT REFINANCED OR PURCHASED WHEN THE RATES WERE 3%, HAD THIS ENORMOUS WINDFALL THAT REDUCED THEIR PAYMENTS FOR HOUSING, RIGHT? AND THAT ACTUALLY HELPED THE ECONOMY STAY OUT OF A RECESSION.
BUT NOW THOSE SAME PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LOW RATES, ARE DOING SOMETHING UNIQUE WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MOMENTARILY.
TO WRAP UP THIS GRAPH, IF WE LOOK AT THE FAR RIGHT DECEMBER, 2025, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR PAYMENTS TO GET BACK TO THE LEVEL OF $40,000 IN REAL DOLLARS? OKAY, ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION, IT WOULD TAKE HOUSING PRICES DECLINING BY 11%, AND MORTGAGE RATES GOING BACK DOWN TO 4.5%.
IT WOULD TAKE A BIG ADJUSTMENT,
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BUT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AND SEE HOW LIKELY THAT IS TO NOT OCCUR ON OUR NEXT GRAPHIC.THIS ONE, UH, TO ME HAS BEEN THE MOST INFORMATIVE, UH, SINCE WE MET LAST IN TERMS OF, UH, UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO HERE WE, UH, COMPILE DATA FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD ON EXISTING HOMEOWNER MORTGAGE RATES FOR HOMEOWNERS.
THEY HAVE TO REPORT THEIR CONTRACT MORTGAGE RATE AS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.
SO WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF THOSE, UH, REPORTED.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE GRAPH.
WE HAVE A GREEN BAR, GREEN BAR THAT IS BEFORE COVID, AND WE HAVE AN ORANGE BAR THAT IS, UH, THE MOST RECENT DATA.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE ARE BELOW 3%? IT USED TO BE 4% OF THE PEOPLE.
THEY PROBABLY GOT SOME KIND OF ADJUSTABLE WITH A TEASER RATE, BUT, UH, NOW IT'S 30%.
SO 30% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS HAVE A RATE OF 3% OR LESS.
WHAT PERCENT OF HOUSEHOLDS ARE BELOW 4%, INCLUDING THE 3% ONES 68% ARE 4% OR LESS.
AND AS WE MOVE TO THE RIGHT, WE, WE SEE HOW THEY CONVERGE BECAUSE THEY'RE A CUMULATIVE KIND OF ANALYSIS AND THEY HAVE TO END UP AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOW ROUGHLY SIX, 7%, A LITTLE BIT LESS, DEPENDING UPON THE TYPE OF LOAN.
WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR THE MARKET TO GET BACK TO NORMAL? WHAT IT WOULD TAKE IS MORTGAGE RATES DECLINING SIGNIFICANTLY CLOSE TO THE 4% LEVEL.
SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT 4% DON'T LOSE THAT MUCH BY GETTING A NEW MORTGAGE.
THEY MAYBE GO FROM 4% TO 4.2%, OR 4.4%.
SO THE, THE RED, UH, TEXT ABOVE THAT MORTGAGE RATES MAY NOT DECLINE BEFORE BELOW 4% SINCE EMPLOYMENT IS STRONG AND THE FED WILL BE NEUTRAL.
THERE'S FOUR MAJOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT FORECAST MORTGAGE RATES OUT TO THE END OF 2025.
SO WITH THAT 6% RATE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BELOW 4% ARE UNLIKELY TO MAKE A MOVE UNLESS THEY NEED TO, FOR PERSONAL REASONS OF SOME SORT.
SO IT'S LIKELY THAT THAT INVENTORY WILL LEVEL WILL STAY DIMINISHED FOR A WHILE.
SO, UH, I MENTIONED I STARTED WHEN I WAS ABOUT 12 IN THIS, AND NOW IN MY TEENS, I DECIDED TO GET INTO POETRY WITH SOME ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
SO I'LL READ THIS TO YOU ON THE NEXT PAGE.
WITH EACH UPTICK IN RATES, DEMAND TOOK FLIGHT.
YET THOSE, YET THOSE WITH LOW RATES CLUNG, TIGHT NESTLED IN DWELLINGS WITH RATES OF YOUR CONTENT IN THE HOMES THEY ADORE.
THEY WATCHED THE MARKET WITH SPECULATIVE EYES AS, AS EXCESS DEMAND PUSHED PRICES TO THE SKIES.
THE, THE FED WITH, WITH ITS TARGET FIRM AT 2% AIMS FOR STABILITY.
AS RATES RECEDE LIKE A LOW TIDES RETREAT, HOPES FOR BUYERS BEGIN TO REPLETE WITH THE PROMISE OF RATES THAT GENTLY DECLINE DREAMS OF OWNERSHIP ONCE MORE ALIGNED, YET HIS HOUSING DEMAND STARTS TO RENEW THE SUPPLY.
OKAY, SO, UM, ONTO THE NEXT ONE.
THIS, THE, THE MARKET THAT'S IMPACTED THE MOST IN A ADVERSE WAY IS THE MARKET FOR EXISTING HOMES.
'CAUSE THOSE ARE THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE IN, IN THERE AND ARE GONNA STAY WITH THEIR MORTGAGES.
THE MARKETS THAT HAVE BENEFITED ARE NEW HOME DEVELOPMENTS AND NEW APARTMENTS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A SUBSTITUTE SINCE THEY CAN'T FIND A HOME THAT THEY WOULD LIKE.
SO THEY LOOK TO THE NEW HOME MARKET, WHICH CAN RESPOND TO SOME DEGREE, BUT ALSO THE NEW, UH, APARTMENT MARKET.
SO WE, WE COVERED THIS LAST TIME, BUT LIST HIGHLIGHTS.
UH, THE CITY HAS ABOUT 3,600 UNITS IN THE ACTIVE PROJECTS AND ALSO THE FORTHCOMING ONES.
UH, WHAT, WHAT DROVE THAT WAS RENT SURGE BY SOME 20% IN 2021.
AND THAT MOTIVATED A LOT OF, UH, DEVELOPERS TO START GOING AND GETTING APPROVAL, UH, FOR
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NEW PROJECTS.SO WE HAVE THREE PROJECTS ON THE MARKET, TWO UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND FIVE MORE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.
GEEZ, UH, THE TYPICAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A UNIT IS A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, AND THE TYPICAL RENT IS $3,000.
AND OUR NEXT PAGE HERE, UH, WE TAKE ALL THE INFORMATION ON THE CURRENTLY ACTIVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND FUTURE PROJECTS.
AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY COULD PROBABLY ABSORB ABOUT 500 UNITS PER YEAR.
SO THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, UH, VERSUS THE JOBS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CREATED, THE, THE, THE CURRENT ACTIVE AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND PLAN PROJECTS WILL PROBABLY TAKE US OUT TO 2029.
WHAT WE DID NOTICE OVER THE LAST YEAR IS SOME PROJECTS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY WERE STARTING TO GRADE AND MOVE AHEAD NOW GOT PUT BACK INTO THE FUTURE CATEGORY BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT WE HAVE THREE ACTIVE PROJECTS AND WE HAVE TWO MORE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT HAVE A TOTAL OF ABOUT 500 UNITS THAT'LL BE COMING ON THE MARKET.
ALRIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR, UH, ECONOMIC AND HOUSING, UH, COMPONENT.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AND COVER THE, UH, BRIGHT LINE HIGH SPEED RAIL.
SO OUR FIRST GRAPH, UH, SHOWS THE EXPECTED RIDERSHIP.
WE WE'RE USUALLY QUITE GOOD AT OBTAINING INFORMATION ON SOMETHING THAT WE'RE RESEARCHING, UH, BUT WITH, UH, BRIGHT LINE, IT HAS BEEN, UH, DIFFICULT TO, UH, GATHER DATA.
UH, FORTUNATELY THE CITY SHARED WITH US SOME DATA REGARDING RIDERSHIP LEVELS.
SO, SO ON THIS GRAPH, UH, WE HAVE ANNUAL FORECAST OF RIDERSHIP BY BRIGHT LINE.
ON THE LEFT HAND AXIS, WE HAVE MILLIONS OF, UH, TRIPS.
AND AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, UH, AND YOU'RE ONE OF OPERATION, UH, THE START IS EXPECTED TO BE ABOUT 6 MILLION PASSENGERS, PASSENGER TRIPS.
AND YEAR FOUR IT GOES UP TO, UH, 8 MILLION, AND YOU'RE EIGHT, IT GOES UP TO 9 MILLION.
AND THEN IT HITS THE, UM, PLAN CAPACITY OF TRAINS.
SO WHEN WE GET TO YEAR 11, UH, WITH THE 11 MILLION, THEN THERE'S PLANS FOR INCREASING CAPACITY IN TERMS OF WHAT TRAINS CAN BE, UH, HANDLED BY THE TRACK.
SO, SO THAT'S THE EXPECTATION, UH, AS SET FORTH BY, UH, BRIGHT LINE.
SO WE DID A INTERESTING ANALYSIS ON THIS.
WE STARTED OUT BY LOOKING AT INTERNATIONAL HIGH SPEED RAIL.
SO EMPIRE IDENTIFIED 11 INTERNATIONAL HIGH SPEED RAIL PROJECTS THAT ARE RECREATION ORIENTED OF THESE SIX ARE REGARDED AS BEING THE MOST COMPARABLE.
THEIR CHARACTERISTICS ARE IN THE, UH, TABLE BELOW.
SO IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, TABLE, WE HAVE THE SIX, UH, LISTED OUT THERE.
COUNTRIES ARE FRANCE, UK, SPAIN, ITALY, JAPAN, AND CHINA.
THEY ARE ALL, UH, HIGH SPEED RAIL THAT HAVE, UH, MAJOR LEVELS OF, UH, RIDERSHIP OF ABOUT, UH, 10 MILLION OR MORE OR MORE GENERALLY, UH, PER YEAR.
THE TWO THAT SEEMED TO BE THE MOST, UH, RELEVANT WERE THE TGV, UH, WHICH IS, UH, IN FRANCE.
AND IT LOCATES THE CITY OF PARIS WITH DISNEY, PARIS, WHICH IS ABOUT 28 MILES TO THE EAST.
THAT'S A RELATIVELY SHORT, UH, RIDE.
IT'S A HIGH SPEED RAIL RIDE, SO IT'S GOTTA BE REALLY FAST
OKAY? AND THEN THE, UH, SECOND ONE WE HAVE IS, UH, EUROSTAR, WHICH IS IN LONDON AND GOES TO DISNEYLAND TERRACE.
AND THAT TRAVELS, UH, 307 MILES.
AND SO WE SEE THESE HIGH SPEED RAILS, LIKE WHAT WE'RE EXPECT EXPECTING WITH BRIGHT LINE WEST, THAT THEY DO CONNECT AREAS WITH, UH, RECREATIONAL CENTERS.
AND OF COURSE, LAS VEGAS IS A STRONG RECREATIONAL CENTER GIVEN CASINO REVENUES OF 8 BILLION, ABOUT 150,000 HOTEL ROOMS AND 2,700 RESTAURANTS.
UH, TGV TO DISNEYLAND, PARIS, POTENTIALLY 10 MILLION TOURISTS TRAVELING BETWEEN THE PARIS STATION AND DISNEYLAND.
PARIS TAKES 'EM RIGHT TO THE PARK.
DISNEYLAND, PARIS FUNDED ONE THIRD OR 126 MILLION EUROS NEEDED TO BUILD A STATION.
AND DI DISNEY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE HSR IS A POPULAR
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MEANS TO REACH THE PARK, AND AT LEAST 60% OF THEIR GUESTS USE THE HSR.THE, UH, EUROSTAR FROM LONDON TO PARIS, THERE'S 11 MILLION PASSENGERS.
AND IT USED TO BE THAT THE TRAIN COMPETED, UH, THE TRAIN WHEN IT CAME COMPETED INITIALLY WITH AARON.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM GRAPH, THE LINE THAT REPRESENTS THE LEVEL OF SEATS FOR AIRLINES WAS INITIALLY AT 5 MILLION, AND IT DROPPED TO ABOUT 3 MILLION OVER TIME AS PEOPLE ADJUST THEIR TRAVEL PATTERNS.
THIS NEXT TABLE IS PRETTY STUNNING.
UH, WE'RE WE ALSO LOOKED AT, UH, DOMESTIC TRAVEL.
DOMESTIC TRAVEL, ANY KIND OF RAIL, NOT NECESSARILY JUST NOT HIGH SPEED, JUST REGULAR RAIL.
SO STARTING OFF WITH THE 6 MILLION PASSENGERS A YEAR, THAT WOULD PUT THE RC STATION IN THE TOP FIVE BUSY, BUSIEST COMMUTER PASSENGER STATIONS IN THE US EMPIRE ANALYZED THE TOP SIX BUSIEST STATIONS TO UNDERSTAND THE AMENITIES.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AMENITIES ARE GONNA BE LIKE YET, UH, BY BRIGHT LINE FOR RANCHO CUCAMONGA, BUT THEY SHOULD BE VERY FAVORABLE BASED UPON WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN, UH, FLORIDA.
BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE TOP HALF OF THIS GRAPH.
WE HAVE STATION CHARACTERISTICS AND PROJECTED TRAFFIC.
SO RECOMMENDED FOR RANCHO CUCAMONGA, 6 MILLION.
THE, THE LOS ANGELES STATION HAS 928,000, SO THAT'S LIKE ONE SIXTH OF IT.
NOW LET'S GO TO NEW YORK PENN.
THEY'RE 8 MILLION, THEY'RE 2 MILLION AHEAD.
EVERY OTHER MAJOR STATION IS WELL BELOW THE EXPECTED 6 MILLION THAT THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA IS IN.
BRIGHT LINE IS ANTICIPATING FOR THE CITY, WASHINGTON UNION, 3.6 MILLION, UH, 30TH STREET PHILADELPHIA, 3 MILLION CHICAGO UNION, 2.4 MILLION SOUTH STREET, BOSTON, 1.2.
THOSE ARE THE FIVE BUSIEST IN UNITED STATES.
AND THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA BASED UPON BRIGHT LINE EXPECTATION WOULD BE NUMBER TWO RIGHT AFTER NEW YORK PENN STATION.
UH, WE PREVIOUSLY HAD EMPLOYMENT GROWTH AND, UH, WE DID NOT INCLUDE IN THE EMPLOYMENT GROWTH.
YOU SAW EARLIER THE, UH, IMPACTS OF THE HIGH SPEED RAIL.
BUT LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, WHAT, WHAT THE HIGH SPEED RAIL MEANS FOR THE CITY.
I, I'D LIKE TO READ THROUGH THE TEXT.
HIGH SPEED RAIL PROVIDES DIRECT AND INDIRECT GROWTH TEMPORARILY FOR CONSTRUCTION POSITIONS.
EXPECTED TO BE 1,900, STARTING IN 2024 AND ENDING IN 2028.
THAT'S 1900 CONSTRUCTION, UH, POSITIONS HERE IN, UH, THE INLAND EMPIRE AREA.
NEXT, SUSTAINING LONG-TERM OPERATIONS FOR THE HIGH SPEED RAIL ADMIN AND SUPPORT ARE 275 POSITIONS STARTING IN 2029, RIGHT? 1900 FOR CONSTRUCTION 275.
UH, FURTHER GROWTH, UH, HSR GENERATES SUPPORT JOBS AT A MULTIPLIER OF 0.7.
EACH JOB HAS AN ADDITIONAL IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY, RETAIL, ET CETERA, OF 0.7.
AND THAT ACCELERATES THE EMPLOYMENT GROWTH INITIALLY.
SO THIS GRAPH WAS STUNNING TO ME BECAUSE WHEN WE CREATED IT, WE STARTED AT 2023 AND WE'VE GOT OUR 79,000 WHAT WE, RIGHT.
UH, THAT'S OUR ACTUAL, AND THEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THE LARGE BLUE BAR REPRESENTS THE GROWTH OF THE CITY'S ECONOMY.
PUT ON TOP OF THAT IS THE RED BAR, WHICH IS THE HIGH SPEED RAIL CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, UH, THE, THE IS IS THE, UM, SUPPORT SECTOR.
OKAY? SO WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON IN THOSE YEARS FROM 2024 TO 2028, RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENS IN 2029 GOES INTO OPERATION OPERATIONS, ARE IT THE 275? SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS STUNNING IN A SENSE.
AND WHAT IT BROUGHT UP IS, THE QUESTION IS,
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WHAT BENEFIT MIGHT THE HIGH SPEED RAIL HAVE FOR THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA? ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR NEXT PAGE.SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE WAY IT, IT'S COMING OUT.
WE'VE GOT 6 MILLION PASSENGERS GOING TO LAS VEGAS, MOSTLY FOR REASONS OF GOING THERE.
WE IDENTIFIED BASED ON TOURISM STATISTICS THAT THERE WERE 560,000 PEOPLE FROM LAS VEGAS THAT VISIT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
AND THEY'RE LIKELY TO SOME OF 'EM TO USE THE HIGH SPEED RAIL.
SO ON OUR NEXT PAGE, OKAY, ON THE, UH, LEFT HAND SIDE, UH, WE HAVE A MAP OF, UH, OR THE WORD DO VISITORS COMING.
UH, WERE WHERE PEOPLE COME FROM TO VISIT THE INLAND EMPIRE.
AND IF WE LOOK AT THAT BY THE BLUE STAR, UH, LAS VEGAS, 9.3% OF THE VISITORS TO THE INLAND EMPIRE, UH, COME FROM LAS VEGAS.
OKAY? SO ON THE GRAPH ON THE RIGHT, WE START WITH THE BLUE BAR, WHICH SHOWS 6 MILLION PEOPLE, UH, FROM ALL THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES COME TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND WE TAKE AN ADJUSTMENT, WE REDUCE THAT BY 4.1 MILLION IN ORDER TO GET LAS VEGAS VISITORS ONLY THAT COME TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
RIGHT? AND THEN WE REDUCE THAT BY THE VISITORS THAT DON'T COME TO THE INLAND EMPIRE.
AND WE'RE LEFT WITH, UH, 258,000.
AND THEN WE TAKE OF THAT, THE ONES WE THINK THAT WILL TRAVEL BY HIGH SPEED RAIL AND THAT NUMBER COMES OUT TO BE 302,000.
WE TRY TO BE CONSERVATIVE, BUT WE FEEL THAT THESE ARE REASONABLE.
WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT BASED ON THE HIGH SPEED RAIL, THE CITY WILL HAVE SOME 300,000 VISITORS COMING TO THE INLAND EMPIRE, EITHER FOR VACATIONS, VISITING FAMILY MEMBERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WHEN WE SAW THAT, WE'RE THINKING THIS IS, THESE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE PASSING THROUGH.
THE CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY IF IT SO CHOOSES TO, TO DEVELOP HOTELS, RETAIL, AND RELATED DEVELOPMENTS IN ORDER TO ATTRACT THEM.
NOW, WHEN, WHEN IT'S FIRST RAMPING UP AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE COMING, THE CITY MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A SHUTTLE SERVICE THAT TAKES PEOPLE FROM THE TRAIN STATION TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, SEE HOW THE HOTELS DO, THE RETAIL, THE RESTAURANTS AND OTHERS.
BUT THAT CAN DEVELOP POSSIBLY INTO SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT, GIVEN THE SIZABLE NUMBER OF VISITORS COMING FROM LAS VEGAS THAT'LL BE USING BRIGHT LINE WEST.
SO THAT'S AN INSIGHT THAT WE HAD FROM THAT, SOMETHING FOR THE CITY THAT WOULD TAKE THAT GRAPH ON EMPLOYMENT AND CONTINUE IT AT A POSITIVE LEVEL.
AND THEN OUR FINAL GRAPHIC, THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF RAIL, UH, POTENTIAL REAL ESTATE PREMIUMS. SO THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA COLLEGE OF BUS BUSINESS REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT TOOK A LOOK AT HOW PROPERTIES ARE IMPACTED BY BRIGHT LINE FLORIDA.
AND WHAT THEY DID IS FOR EACH OF THE STATIONS, THEY LOOKED AT CHANGES IN PROPERTY VALUES BASED UPON THE ANNOUNCEMENT, THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE OPENING.
AND FURTHERMORE, THEY DID THAT FOR PROPERTIES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE STATION AND THEN FURTHER AWAY.
SO THE OVERALL RESULTS REFLECTED ABOUT A 9% PREMIUM FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VALUES THAT WERE LOCATED CLOSEST TO EACH OF THE BRIGHT LINE STATIONS AS COMPARED TO THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WERE FURTHEST.
THE BRIGHT LINE, FLORIDA HAS A LOT OF COMMUTERS, THERE'S SHORTER DISTANCES BETWEEN MIAMI AND OTHER OUTLYING AREAS.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A RECREATION DESTINATION.
AND THE OTHER THING IS THE STUDY WAS DOING RESIDENTIAL ONLY.
IT DIDN'T LOOK AT THE OTHER KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS, BUT NEVERTHELESS, A POSITIVE IMPACT.
AND THAT WOULD CONCLUDE THE, UH, PRESENTATION.
WELL, I'VE OFTEN WONDERED WHAT I WOULD DO WHEN I'M NO LONGER SERVING ON THE CITY COUNCIL, AND YOU'RE JUST SUGGESTING MY NEXT JOB.
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SHUTTLE DRIVERBUT MAINLY JUST AS A REMINDER FOR ANYBODY WHO MIGHT SEE THIS LATER, UM, THE CITY, UM, WAS A RECIPIENT OF A GRANT FROM ONE OF OUR, FROM CONGRESSWOMAN NORMA TORRES, TO HELP WITH A SHUTTLE TO DO JUST, UM, WHAT DR.
UM, WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH GO CAL RIGHT NOW, UM, WHO'S CONDUCTING A STUDY, UM, AND TRYING TO LOOK AT SOME, UM, CONSOLIDATIONS AND EFFICIENCIES WITH ALL THE DUPLICATIVE TRANSIT OPTIONS THAT THE MANY HOTELS IN ONTARIO AND RANCHO PROVIDE INDEPENDENTLY.
UM, AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM, UM, UH, WITH OUR GRANT TO, TO TRY AND SEE HOW WE CAN ALIGN THAT AND GET SOMETHING NEW KICKED OFF.
'CAUSE WE, WE DO THINK THE, THE DEMAND MAY ALREADY BE THERE, UM, AT LEAST FOR, UM, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SERVICE.
AND WE DEFINITELY WANT SOMETHING IN PLACE BEFORE BRIGHT LINE OPENS.
SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION BY MR. JANSING? YES, MR. MAYOR, A COUPLE THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MODELING FOR US WHAT BRIGHT WINE WEST MIGHT LOOK LIKE FOR OUR CITY.
I KNOW THAT'S A REALLY CHALLENGING THING TO DO, LOOKING OUTTA STATE, LOOKING ACROSS, UH, YOU KNOW, INTO EUROPE.
BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU KIND OF DISTILLING THAT DOWN AND TO FIGURING OUT WHAT OUR IMPACTS MIGHT BE.
UM, AND, AND A LOT OF POSITIVE ONES THAT, SO, SO I'M, I'M REALLY EXCITED.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK, GOING BACK TO YOUR REAL ESTATE LECTURE, IS THERE, IT SEEMS TO BE A, A SHIFT LOOKING BACKWARDS, PROBABLY SINCE THE END OF 2022 WHEN INTEREST RATES REALLY WENT UP OR STARTED CLIMBING.
UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE TEMPORARY, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE PREDICTED WITHIN THE FOLLOWING YEAR OR TWO MAXIMUM THAT THEY WOULD SEE RATES IN THE FOUR PERCENTS AGAIN.
AND HERE WE ARE IN 2024, THE MIDDLE OF IT, AND THEY'RE STILL HOVERING IN THE HIGH SIXES, UH, TO SEVENS.
AND SO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE STARTED TO ACCEPT NOW, AND IT SEEMS LIKE ECONOMISTS ARE SAYING THAT HIGHER INTEREST RATES ARE PROBABLY HERE TO STAY FOR A WHILE AND NOT GOING DOWN, UH, IMMEDIATELY.
AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, A REALLY IMPORTANT THING FOR EVERYONE TO, TO RECOGNIZE.
AND AS BUYERS GET MORE, UNFORTUNATELY USED TO SPENDING $60,000 A YEAR ON THEIR MORTGAGE RATHER THAN 40, I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT, UH, TO PLAN KIND OF GOING AHEAD AND WHEN PEOPLE MAKE STRATEGIC, UH, DECISIONS ABOUT ACQUIRING REAL ESTATE OR, OR REFINANCING, UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE WORLD THAT WE'RE IN NOW.
SO I, I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND EXPLAIN THAT AND HELP KIND OF DEMYSTIFY WHAT NOT THAT LONG AGO.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SAYING WAS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
IT WAS STUNNING TO ME IN LOOKING AT THOSE STATISTICS THAT 30% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS HAVE A RATE OF 3% OR LESS.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF WE REFLECT BACK TO THE, UH, HOUSING PRICE BUBBLE WHERE WE HAD PEOPLE OVER MORTGAGING WITH CREATIVE FINANCING, AND THAT WAS A PROBLEM WITH FORECLOSURES.
NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BELOW INTEREST RATES THAT ARE AFFECTING THE MARKET IN A VERY SIGNIFICANT WAY.
THEY'RE NOT IN ANY DANGER OF FORECLOSURE, JUST THE OPPOSITE.
THEY'RE HOLDING ONTO THEIR MORTGAGE, UNDERSTAND AND PULLING EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE MARKET IN A, IN A TOUGH POSITION GIVEN THE LIMITED SUPPLY.
UH, YOU KNOW, I I, I DO, I, AS YOU WERE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE, THE GRAPHS, I THOUGHT ABOUT OUR STAFF AND WHAT A VALUABLE TOOL THAT IS FOR OUR STAFF WHEN THEY START DOING ANALYSIS OF, OF THE DIFFERENT SECTORS AND, AND, UM, THE HOUSING MARKET.
AND I WAS SHOCKED BY, I'M STILL, I KNEW OUR, OUR RENTS FOR APARTMENTS WERE PRETTY STEEP, BUT IT'S JUST, JUST, IT'S, THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE IS, IS OUT THE WINDOW.
IT'S JUST HERE IN THIS CITY UNTIL INTEREST RATES DROP AND WE CAN GET PEOPLE IN.
'CAUSE YEAH, AS LONG AS THE EXISTING HOUSING MARKET HAS THAT INVENTORY ISSUE, THE DEMAND WILL CAUSE PRICES TO STABILIZE OR CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
AND THE EXCESS DEMAND THAT CAN'T BE FULFILLED WILL GO TO NEW HOMES AND A APART AND NEW APARTMENTS.
AND YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS THINK SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY $3,000 A MONTH.
I MENTION IT TO LYNN, UH, $3,000 A MONTH TO PAY FOR A TWO BEDROOM, SOMETIMES EVEN DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION OF THE CITY, A ONE BEDROOM.
AND, AND YOU SIT THERE AND YOU GO, UM, MAN, THAT'S A HOUSE PAYMENT IN, IN SOME CASES, NOT MAYBE WITH INTEREST RATES THAT THERE ARE TODAY, BUT IT'S THE DOWN PAYMENT.
PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT KIND OF MONEY TO GET INTO A HOME.
WITH A DOWN PAYMENT TO REDUCE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR COST OF THEIR MORTGAGE.
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
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YOU.THANK YOU FOR COMING ALL THE WAY UP FROM, FROM DANA POINT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO COUNCIL BUSINESS.
[I. COUNCIL BUSINESS]
ANNOUNCEMENTS,[I1. COUNCIL ANNOUNCEMENTS (Comments to be limited to three minutes per Council Member.) ]
ANY INTERAGENCY[I2. INTERAGENCY UPDATES (Update by the City Council to the community on the meetings that were attended.) ]
UPDATES? ANY CITY ATTORNEY ITEMS?[J. CITY ATTORNEY ITEMS]
UH, MR. MAYOR, I DID JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT A CORRECTED VERSION OF THE AMENDMENT FOR ITEM D NINE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR WAS ON YOUR DESK AND SHOULD REFLECT, UH, FOR THE RECORD THAT THAT WAS WHAT WAS ADOPTED.ANY IDENTIFICATION FOR OUR NEXT MEETING,
[K. IDENTIFICATION OF ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING]
WHICH BY THE WAY, UH, OUR, OUR MEETING FOR NORMALLY SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 2ND HAS BEEN CANT, AUGUST 7TH, EXCUSE ME, HAS BEEN CANCELED.SO OUR NEXT MEETING IS THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF AUGUST, AND THAT WOULD BE ON AUGUST THE 21ST.
SO WITH THAT, WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED.
[L. ADJOURNMENT]
ATTENDING THIS EVENING'S MEETING.APPRECIATE IT TIME, HUH? TIME.