* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WELCOME [00:00:01] LADIES AND FULL AND BLESSED THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY. UM, WE WILL START OUR MEETING NOW, OR THIS IS OUR MEETING OF NOT ONLY THE FIRE BOARD, BUT OF OF THE CITY COUNCIL. [REGULAR MEETING – 7:00 P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBERS] SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UM, OUR COUNCILWOMAN [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL:  Mayor Michael  Mayor Pro Tem Kennedy  Council Members Hutchison, Scott and Stickler] ASHLEY STICKLER TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE TO OUR NATION'S FLAG READY BEGIN ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG BY THE UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES AMERICA, ONE NATION AND LIBERTY OF JUSTICE LAW. THANK YOU. ROLL CALL. MAYOR MICHAEL IS PRESIDENT MAYOR PRO. TIM LYNN KENNEDY IS ABSENT THIS EVENING. SHE HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE AND WE'RE VERY PROUD THAT OUR MAYOR PRO TIM IS NOW THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES AND THEY HAVE THEIR ANNUAL LEAGUE LEADERS, UH, CONFERENCE GOING ON FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS. SO SHE'S THERE LEADING THAT ORGANIZATION. COUNCIL MEMBERS RYAN HUTCHINSON PRESENT. CHRISTINE SCOTT PRESENT AND ASHLEY STICKLER PRESENT. THANK YOU. UM, AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON AND ASK FOR ANY AMENDMENTS [A. AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA] TO THIS EVENING'S AGENDA OR MODIFICATIONS. MADAM CLERK, THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO TODAY'S AGENDA. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. SO WE HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT TONIGHT. [B. ANNOUNCEMENTS / PRESENTATIONS] A VERY [B1. Presentation of a Certificate of Sympathy in Honor of Wilma Steeve.] SAD ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT, UH, A LIFE WELL LIVED FOR SURE. THIS IS A PRESENTATION OF A CERTIFICATE OF SYMPATHY IN HONOR OF WILL WILMA STEVIE. IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE STEVIE FAMILY THAT HAPPEN TO BE HERE THAT I MAY NOT, I WAS TOLD THAT NO ONE WOULD BE HERE FOR THIS, BUT, UH, THEY CERTAINLY ARE VERY, VERY HONORED TO HAVE THIS, UH, STATEMENT MADE. I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THIS AT THE CONCLUSION OF TONIGHT'S MEETING. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ADJOURNING, UH, AND IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN NOT ONLY TO ADJOURN THE MEETING IN HONOR AND IN MEMORY OF WILMA STEVIE, FORMER SENIOR SITTER AT SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER AND LONGTIME VOLUNTEER FOR THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA. WILMA PASSED AWAY ON OCTOBER 31ST, 2020 FOURTH. UH, I BELIEVE SHE WAS ABOUT 98 YEARS OLD. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, SHE'LL BE REMEMBERED AS AN EXTRAORDINARY PUBLIC SERVANT AND DEDICATED MEMBER OF THE RANCHO CUCAMONGA COMMUNITY. WILMA, STEVIE WIFE, MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER, AND FRIEND AND COMMUNITY ADVOCATE DEVOTED COUNTLESS YEARS OF HER LIFE VOLUNTEERING FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE SENIOR CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WILMA WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE RANCHO CUCAMONGA SENIOR CENTER IN 19 7, 19 97, AND WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WILMA WAS ALSO INSTRUMENTAL IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE JAMES L ROYALTY SENIOR CENTER. OVER 20 YEARS AGO, WILMA HAD A PASSION FOR SERVING HOME BOUND SENIORS OF THE COMMUNITY, DEDICATING THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF HER TIME, AND SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO RAISE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THEIR CAUSE. WILMA WAS A RECIPIENT, AND THIS IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE OF THE ULTIMATE SENIOR AWARD WITH OVER 10,000 HOURS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 280 WORK HOURS IN A YEAR, AND THIS YOUNG LADY SPENT 10,000 HOURS OF VOLUNTEERISM, PRETTY AMAZING. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF, THE ENTIRE RANCHO CUCAMONGA COMMUNITY, WE SEND OUR SINCEREST AND HEARTFELT CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF WILMA. STEVIE. OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH STEVIE FAMILY DURING THIS VERY DIFFICULT TIME. AND I'LL JUST ADD ONE FINAL COMMENT. UM, WILMA'S HUSBAND WAS NAMED WILBUR STEVIE. THEY BOTH WERE LIKE CONNECTED AT THE HIPS AT THE SENIOR CENTER FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS, AND IT WAS ALWAYS JUST SUCH A JOY, VERY CLASSY MARRIED COUPLE AND, AND, UM, WILBUR PASSED AWAY A FEW YEARS BACK, BUT, UH, WILMA TO THE DAY, THE LAST DAY I EVER SAW HER, WAS STILL THE CLASSY WOMAN THAT SHE WAS WHEN I FIRST MET HER. SO, UH, WE WILL BE ADJOURNING IN HER MEMORY THIS EVENING. WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO COMMUNICATIONS [C. PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS] FROM THE PUBLIC. THIS IS A TIME IN THE PLACE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY ITEM LISTED OR NOT LISTED ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA. YOUR COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL, AND THERE'S A RED LIGHT, THIS RED LIGHT THAT WILL BE ON YOUR MICROPHONE THERE AT THE PODIUM. UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A TIMER ON THE SCREEN. AND, UM, WE WILL NOW, UM, MOVE ON TO COMMUNICATIONS. AND IT'S JULIE LOU. JULIE, [00:05:09] GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OF, UH, CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA. MY NAME IS JULIE LIU. I'M A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WESTERN STATES REGIONAL COUNCIL OF CARPENTERS. I WANTED TO SPEAK, UH, ON ITEM D SIX. UH, THE JRC REAL ESTATE INVESTMENTS HAS BUILT A PROJECT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HAVEN AND ARROW, WHICH IS A MULTIPLE FLOOR MIXED USE PROJECT. HIS PROJECT WAS PUT ON HOLD FOR QUITE A BIT OF TIME, BECOMING AN EYESORE TO THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE IRRESPONSIBLE CONTRACTORS THAT WAS AWARDED THE JOB. THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WAS A AND R. CORPORATIONS A AND R HIRED A SUBCONTRACTOR BY THE NAME OF SAHARA CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. SAHARA HAD ISSUES WITH PAYING THE WORKERS AND CHEATING THEIR WORKERS OUT OF THEIR WAGES. A AND R WAS MADE AWARE OF THESE ISSUES, AND THE ISSUES WERE EVENTUALLY RESOLVED ONLY BECAUSE JRC HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO REMOVE A AND R AND SAHARA AT THE END OF THE DAY. THIS WAS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE WE HAD MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY LOSE OUT ON JOB OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE OF CHEATING. CONTRACTORS WITH THE FUTURE PROJECT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HAVEN AND CIVIC CENTER DRIVE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA AND JJRC REAL ESTATE INVESTMENTS CONSIDER HIRING RESPONSIBLE CONTRACTORS. SO THESE ISSUES DON'T CONTINUE IN THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA. BEING A GROWING CITY IN A BEAUTIFUL CITY, RANCHO CUCAMONGA HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THE CITY RESPONSIBLY AND WITH INTEGRITY AND WITH OUR NEW AND CONTINUING LEADERSHIP, WE FEEL THIS IS A VERY, UH, WE FEEL THIS IS VERY POSSIBLE. UM, ON BEHALF OF WESTERN STATES, CARPENTERS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE ONLY SPEAKER CARD THAT I HAD. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE BY CHANCE THAT'S HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS? IF NOT, WE WILL MOVE ON. SEEING NONE, WE'LL NOW MOVE [D. CONSENT CALENDAR] ON TO OUR CONSENT CALENDAR. CONSENT CALENDARS ARE EXPECTED TO BE ROUTINE AND NON-CONTROVERSIAL, AND THEY'LL BE ACTED UPON AT ONE TIME WITHOUT DISCUSSION. HOWEVER, ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL MAY REMOVE AN ITEM IF THEY SO WISH TO HAVE THAT FOR A DISCUSSION. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. MAYOR? I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM ITEM D THREE DUE TO POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST AS SOCALGAS IS MY EMPLOYER, THAT ABSTENTION WILL BE NOTED. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS EVENING'S CONSENT CALENDAR? SO MOVED. SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. THERE IT GOES. MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT ABSTAINING ON ITEM D THREE AND MAYOR PRO TEM KENNEDY. ABSENT. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE ONE, UM, CONSENT [E. CONSENT CALENDAR ORDINANCE(S) - SECOND READING/ADOPTION] AND CALENDAR ORDINANCE THIS EVENING, AND THAT ORDINANCE [E1. Consideration of Second Reading and Adoption of the Following: ORDINANCE NO. 1033 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING SECTION 10.52.025 OF THE RANCHO CUCAMONGA MUNICIPAL CODE TO ADD THE 6TH STREET PAID PARKING ZONE, THE WEST FOOTHILL BOULEVARD PAID PARKING ZONE AND MAKING A FINDING OF EXEMPTION UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT (CITY)] IS, UM, ORDINANCE NUMBER 10 33. UH, THIS ORDINANCE HAD, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, TWO WEEKS AGO. AND SO TONIGHT IT'S OUR SECOND READING. UH, IS THERE ANYONE ON THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS FURTHER THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE? IF NOT, WE WILL NOW MOVE FORWARD TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO WAIVE FULL READING AND ADOPT. ORDINANCE NUMBER 10 0 1 0 3 3 TO BE READ BY TITLE ONLY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? STILL MOVE. SECOND MADAM CLERK, ORDINANCE NUMBER 1 0 3 3. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CALIFORNIA AMENDING SECTION 10.5 2.025 OF THE RANCHO CUCAMONGA MUNICIPAL CODE TO ADD THE SIXTH STREET PAID PARKING ZONE, THE WEST FOOTHILL BOULEVARD PAID PARKING ZONE, AND MAKING A FINDING OF EXEMPTION UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT. THANK YOU. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. WITH THOSE PRESENT MAYOR PRO TEM KENNEDY. ABSENT. VERY GOOD. WE'RE NOW GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR ADVERTISED [F. ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING ITEM(S) - NONE] UM, HEARINGS. THESE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING ITEMS AND THEY ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS. OUR [G. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM(S) - CITY/FIRE DISTRICT] FIRST, WE HAVE THREE OF 'EM THIS EVENING. OUR FIRST, UM, [G1. Public Hearing to Consider Establishing, Repealing, and Amending Certain Service and User Fee Adjustments for Various Departments (Animal Services, Community Services, Engineering Services, and Planning and Economic Development), and Consider a Resolution Approving Such New Service and User Fees. (RESOLUTION NO. 2024-105) (CITY)] ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS, UM, A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ESTABLISHING, REPEALING AND AMENDING CERTAIN SERVICE AND USER FEE ADJUSTMENTS FOR VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, ANIMAL SERVICES, COMMUNITY SERVICES, ENGINEERING SERVICES AND PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING SUCH NEW SERVICE AND USER FEES. AND THAT'S CODIFIED UNDER RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH 0 1 0 5, EXCUSE ME, 1 0 5. MR. SISON, MR. MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. SO, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA AND THEY'RE BOTH ON FEES. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO [00:10:01] COMMENT ON FEES AS YOU REITERATE OR AS YOU INDICATED WHEN YOU READ THE TITLE. THIS FIRST ONE IS USER FEES, UM, PRIMARILY ANIMAL SERVICES, COMMUNITY SERVICES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THERE'S ONE FEE, UH, IN PLANNING AND A FEW IN ENGINEERING. SO THIS IS NOT OUR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE ITEM. THAT IS THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE WILL BE, UM, RECOMMENDING BE CONTINUED. UM, SO THIS IS THE USER FEES. SO, UM, WITH THAT, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO DARRELL RICHARDSON, OUR MANAGEMENT ANALYST TOO IN FINANCE TO GIVE THE STAFF REPORT ON THIS ITEM OF HER. THANK YOU, MR. GOIN. ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED FEE ADJUSTMENTS FROM SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS. THE CITY OFFERS MANY SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES AND FEES ARE CHARGED TO RECOVER THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH PROVIDING THESE SERVICES. AS PART OF OUR COMMITMENT TO FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, THESE FEES ARE REVIEWED AND UPDATED ANNUALLY TO ENSURE THEY REMAIN FAIR, TRANSPARENT, AND ALIGNED WITH OUR OPERATIONAL NEEDS. THIS YEAR, FOUR DEPARTMENTS PARTICIPATED IN THE FEE ADJUSTMENT PROCESS, ANIMAL SERVICES, COMMUNITY SERVICES ENGINEERING THROUGH THE RANCHO CUCAMONGA MUNICIPAL UTILITY AND PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. TONIGHT I'LL PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES FROM EACH DEPARTMENT HIGHLIGHTING THEIR PURPOSE. KEY UPDATE AND RATIONALE ANIMAL SERVICES IS PROPOSING ADJUSTMENTS TO BETTER ALIGN FEES WITH RISING OPERATIONAL COST AND ENSURE SUSTAINABLE FUNDING. THESE UPDATES ADDRESS INCREASED EXPENSES FOR ANIMAL CARE, MEDICAL SERVICES, AND ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSING. KEY CHANGES INCLUDE ALIGNING ADOPTION FEES WITH MEDICAL CARE COSTS, REVISING LICENSING FEES TO COVER REGULATORY SERVICES, AND INTRODUCING SPECIALIZED FEE STRUCTURES FOR CERTAIN ANIMALS. ADJUSTMENTS ARE ALSO PROPOSED FOR PET SURRENDER FEES TO REFLECT SERVICE SU SERVICE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS. THESE UPDATES AIM TO MAINTAIN THE DEPARTMENT'S HIGH QUALITY SERVICES WHILE MEETING GROWING DEMAND AND FINANCIAL CHALLENGES. THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS FOCUSED ON ENHANCING ITS OFFERINGS TO MEET THE EVOLVING NEEDS OF OUR CUSTOMERS. STAFF HAS PROPOSED USER FEE ADJUSTMENTS TO REFLECT THE CURRENT MARKETPLACE AND PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR PATRONS. ADDITIONALLY, OUTDATED FEES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR ELIMINATION OR COMBINATION TO BETTER ALIGN WITH THE CURRENT BUSINESS MODEL. MINOR LANGUAGE ADJUSTMENTS ARE ALSO PROPOSED TO IMPROVE CLARITY, ACCURACY, AND CUSTOMER SERVICE. THESE CHANGES ENSURE THAT FEES ARE ALIGNED WITH COMMUNITY PREFERENCES AND ENHANCED SERVICE DELIVERY. RANCHO CUCAMONGA MUNICIPAL UTILITY PROPOSES THREE NEW FEES RELATED TO TELECOMMUNICATION LEASES AND SITE MODIFICATIONS. THESE FEES ARE DESIGNED TO RECOVER COSTS FOR STAFF TIME AND CITY ATTORNEY SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH REVIEWING SITE PLANS, VERIFYING LEASE COMPLIANCE AND COORDINATING LOGISTICS. THE PROPOSED FEES ADDRESS MINOR SITE MODIFICATIONS, CONTRACT AMENDMENTS, AND NEW CELL TOWER INSTALLATIONS BY ALIGNING FEES WITH THE RESOURCES NEEDED FOR THESE PROJECTS. RCMU CAN MORE EFFECTIVELY MANAGE TELECOM TELECOMMUNICATIONS PROJECTS AND ENSURE COST RECOVERY. THE PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT PROPOSES MINOR UPDATES TO IMPROVE CLARITY AND ACCURACY IN ITS FEE STRUCTURE. THESE UPDATES INCLUDE A NAME CHANGE TO BETTER REFLECT THE PURPOSE OF AN EXISTING FEE, AN INCREASE IN THE GENERAL PLAN MAINTENANCE FEE TO SUPPORT COST RECOVERY AND CORRECTIONS TO FOOTNOTES AND TERMINOLOGY FOR CONSISTENCY. THESE CHANGES ALIGN THE FEE SCHEDULE WITH THE DEPARTMENT'S COST RECOVERY GOALS WHILE MAINTAINING TRANSPARENCY FOR THE PUBLIC. IF APPROVED, PROPOSED FEES WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE ON THE FOLLOWING DATES. JANUARY 1ST, 2025 FOR ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THEIR LICENSING FEES. FEBRUARY 2ND, 2025, WHICH IS 60 DAYS FROM THE ADOPTION OF THIS RELU RESOLUTION FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT'S, LICENSING FEES, UH, ENGINEERING AND PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN JULY 1ST, 2025 FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT OUTREACH EFFORTS FOR THE PROPOSED FEES CHANGES INCLUDE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING WAS ADVERTISED IN THE NEWSPAPER TWICE. NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING WAS MAILED TO INTERESTED PARTIES BY THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND FEE COST ANALYSIS WERE MADE AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE CITY COUNCIL TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS. NUMBER ONE, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED NEW AND AMENDED SERVICE AND USER FEES. NUMBER TWO, ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH NEW FEES, REPEL OUTDATED FEES AND AMEND CERTAIN EXISTING FEES FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, COMMUNITY SERVICES, ENGINEERING, AND PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THESE PROPO THESE PROPOSED UPDATES FROM EACH DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY EVALUATED TO ENSURE THEY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, [00:15:01] REFLECT CURRENT COST, AND MAINTAIN HIGH STANDARDS OF SERVICE. WE WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK AND ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM FOR STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. WE WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IS THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE THIS EVENING THAT WISH TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON OUR USER FEE ADJUSTMENTS? ESTIMATES? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ARE THERE ANY FEW FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH 0 1 0 5 TO ESTABLISH NEW FEES, REPEAL OUTDATED FEES, AND AMEND CERTAIN EXISTING FEES FOR CITYWIDE SERVICE AND USER FEES. SO MOVE SECOND. PLEASE VOTE A MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT WITH MAYOR PRO TEM KENNEDY. ABSENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR STAFF REPORT, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. VERY WELL DONE. OKAY, WE'LL NOW MOVE [G2. Public Hearing for Consideration of Resolution No. 2024-104, a Resolution of the City of Rancho Cucamonga, California, Establishing the Rates for the Impact Fees Associated with Fire Protection, Park, Community and Recreation Center, Library, Animal Center, Police, and Transportation Facilities; Adopting the Impact Fee Nexus Studies in Support of the Foregoing Impact Fees, Including Adopting Capital Improvement Programs as part of the Nexus Studies, and Making a Determination of Exemption Under CEQA; and Consideration of First Reading of Ordinance No. 1034, to be Read by Title Only and Waive Further Reading, Adding Chapter 3.80 to the Rancho Cucamonga Municipal Code, Establishing a Development Impact Fee for Fire Impacts of Residential and Business Development, and Making a Determination of Exemption under CEQA. (RESOLUTION NO. 2024-104) (ORDINANCE NO. 1034) (CITY/FIRE) (ITEM CONTINUED TO DECEMBER 18, 2024 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING)] ON TO ITEM G TWO OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS AND THAT I WILL TURN OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER. AS HE MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS REGARDING DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE. YES, MR. MAYOR, JUST FOR THE RECORD TO MAKE SURE SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION. UM, THIS IS A, UH, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024 DASH 1 0 4, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CALIFORNIA, ESTABLISHING THE RATES FOR THE IMPACT FEES ASSOCIATED WITH FIRE PROTECTION PARK COMMUNITY AND RECREATION CENTER LIBRARY ANIMAL OH ANIMAL CENTER POLICE AND TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES, ADOPTING THE IMPACT FEE NEXUS STUDIES IN SUPPORT OF THE FOREGOING IMPACT FEES, INCLUDING ADOPTING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS AS PART OF THE NEXUS STUDIES AND MAKING A DETERMINATION OF EXEMPTION UNDER CQA AND CONSIDERATION OF FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 10 34 TO BE READ BY TITLE ONLY AND WAIVE FURTHER READING, ADDING CHAPTER 3.80 TO THE RANCHO CUCAMONGA MUNICIPAL CODE ESTABLISHING A DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE FOR FIRE IMPACTS OF RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND MAKING A DETERMINATION OF EXEMPTION UNDER SEQUENCE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE FULL TITLE, UM, REFLECTED, UH, IN THE RECORD. SO, UM, WITH THAT, SIR, UM, LET ME GO AHEAD AND, UH, JUST PRESENT, IT'S A VERY BRIEF STAFF REPORT, SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, NOTICED, UM, AND I WANNA REFERENCE, WE DID RECEIVE, UM, UH, ONE LETTER, UM, FROM A NEW BRIDGE THAT I BELIEVE, UH, REFERENCES THE FACT THAT IT'S A BROWN ACT VIOLATION BECAUSE NO NOTICE WAS GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC, NONE OF THE MATERIALS WERE PUBLISHED OR THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY INCORRECT. WE DID DO THAT, UM, AND, UM, PROVIDED THAT NOTICE, UH, APPROPRIATELY, BUT WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT. SO, UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE, UH, TO DECEMBER 18TH. UM, WE'RE HOPING TO WORK THROUGH, UM, THE ISSUES BETWEEN NOW AND THEN IF WE CAN. IF WE CANNOT, UM, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN AND ASK FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE. WE LEFT OFF ALL THE ORIGINAL STAFF REPORT AND ALL THE ORIGINAL MATERIALS BECAUSE WHEN WE WROTE THIS, WE KNEW WE WERE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE. OKAY. SO WE DID NOT INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT WAS, UM, ORIGINALLY PUT OUT THERE. SO GOOD. UM, THAT IS WHY THAT IS NOT THERE. SO WITH THAT, SIR, THAT REALLY, UM, CONCLUDES OUR, UM, STAFF REPORT. UM, WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, IS A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE, AND THEN, UM, WE'LL SEE WHERE WE ARE AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT TIME PERIOD. VERY GOOD. UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE CONTINUING THIS AS STATED BY OUR CITY MANAGER, BUT THIS ISN'T ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING AND IT WAS NOTICED FOR THIS EVENING. SO IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS MATTER, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FINE. UM, AND IN IN PARTICULAR, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE ON DECEMBER 18TH, WE WOULD WANT TO HEAR YOUR TESTIMONY ON THIS MATTER. AND, AND MR. MAYOR, JUST FOR THE RECORD, LET ME STATE, WE HAVE A LETTER WE RECEIVED FROM NEW BRIDGE HOMES THAT I PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED. WE HAVE, UM, A LETTER, UM, UH, SAYING THEY WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS EVENING, BUT THAT THEY WANTED THE ITEM CONTINUED THAT WE RECEIVED FROM, UM, MANNING HOMES. WE ALSO RECEIVED, UH, A LETTER TODAY. THESE ARE ALL LETTERS THAT CAME IN TODAY, UM, FROM, UM, WARMINGTON RESIDENTIAL DIVISION. UM, AGAIN REFERENCING, UM, THE ITEM TONIGHT AND ASKING IN THIS CASE THAT THE COUNCIL TABLE THE ITEM COMPLETELY, UH, RATHER THAN CONTINUE IT. AND WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE DESERT VALLEY BUILDERS [00:20:01] ASSOCIATION, UM, ACTUALLY, UM, WITH A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND, UM, FROM THE ORIGINAL ITEM NOTICE THAT WAS SENT OUT. AND THEN WE RECEIVED, UH, MANY, MANY, MANY PAGES OF LETTERS, UM, MULTIPLE TIMES FROM, UM, MR. RODRIGUEZ WITH THE BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION. UM, AND HE IS AWARE THAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING CONTINUING IT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT WE HAVE THAT IN THE RECORD ABOUT ALL THE LETTERS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. UM, MOST OF THEM COMING IN TODAY, BUT SOME OF THEM COMING IN EARLIER. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AND MR. MAYOR, I DO RECOMMEND FORMALLY OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. SO, WITH THAT SAID, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. WE HAVE FIVE SPEAKERS THAT FILLED OUT SPEAKER CARDS. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS GILLIAN BISHOP, FOLLOWED BY TIM MCGINNIS. GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS GILMAN BISHOP. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS, ON INCREASING DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES. UM, I'M A FOR RENT APARTMENT DEVELOPER WHOM RECENTLY, UH, RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR 145 UNIT MULTIFAMILY, UM, APARTMENT PROJECT ON A TWO AND A HALF ACRE LOT ON THE CORNER OF FOOTHILL AND LION STREET. I'VE COME HERE TONIGHT TO WARN AGAINST INCREASING DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES AT A TIME WHEN APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT ALREADY CANNOT GET FINANCING. MY PROJECT IS ON HOLD. I'VE PUT ALL MY FAMILY'S MONEY INTO IT, AND WE MAY NEVER GET IT OFF THE GROUND. MANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED PRIOR ARE ALSO ON HOLD. I'M SURE YOU DRIVE AROUND AND WONDER WHEN THEY'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD. THE REASON IS MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT FOR RENT IS CURRENTLY FINANCIALLY INFEASIBLE. THE THE INTEREST RATES HAVE TRIPLED. THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE GONE UP DRAMATICALLY AND THE RENTS HAVE FLATLINED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. AND HERE WE HAVE THE CITY STAFF LOOKING TO INCREASE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES WITHOUT STUDYING THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY OF WHETHER APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IS EVEN FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE AS IT IS, AS OPPOSED TO RAISING FINANCE, RAISING IMPACT FEES. AT THIS TIME, WE SHOULD BE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHY AREN'T THINGS MOVING FORWARD. MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIVE IMPACT FEES FOR A COUPLE YEARS UNTIL DEVELOPERS ARE ABLE TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET. THE STATE JUST APPROVED A BILL THAT INCREASE, THAT EXTENDS ALL OF THE DEVELOPERS, UH, PERMITS AND APPROVALS 18 MONTHS BECAUSE AT A STATE LEVEL, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE IN A DEVELOPMENT RECESSION RIGHT NOW, APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT IS IN A RECESSION. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE IMPACT FEE INCREASES AT THIS TIME. VERY SERIOUSLY. WE'RE REALLY STRUGGLING. IF I DON'T GET THIS PROJECT OFF THE GROUND, IT'LL PROBABLY THE LAST DEAL I'M ABLE TO DO IN THE INLAND EMPIRE, WHICH WOULD BE SAD FOR ME. UM, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ALSO CONSIDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE RENT RESTRICTED. WHY NOT WAIVE IMPACT FEES ENTIRELY FOR THOSE THERE ARE ALREADY INSANELY EXPENSIVE AND FINANCIALLY AND FEASIBLE. WHY NOT WAIVE THOSE ACROSS THE BOARD? ALL THE AGENCIES SHOULD DO THAT. SO PLEASE CONSIDER THOSE THINGS AND, UH, TAKE MY CONCERN SERIOUSLY. THANK YOU. SEE YOU ON 18TH, KEVIN MCGINNIS, FOLLOWED BY JEFF SMITH. UH, GOOD E GOOD EVENING MAYOR MICHAEL, UH, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I'M, UH, TIM MCGINNIS. UH, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE LEWIS GROUP OF COMPANIES TONIGHT. UH, WE APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO DEFER, UH, COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE INCREASES FOR TWO MORE WEEKS. UH, WE HOPE THE EXTENSION WILL ALLOW US, UH, ENOUGH TIME FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF AND THEIR CONSULTANTS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S FUTURE NEEDS. AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, UH, WE'RE CONCERNED WITH THE MAGNITUDE OF THE INCREASES IN FEES AND THEIR ECONOMIC ECONOMIC IMPACT ON NEW DEVELOPMENT. THE PROPOSED $550 MILLION INCREASE WOULD MORE THAN DOUBLE CURRENT FEES FOR ATTACHED HOUSING AND ADD $36,000 TO THE COST OF EVERY NEW HOME BUILT IN THE CITY. AT TODAY'S MORTGAGE RATES THAT INCREASE WOULD ADD AT LEAST $246 TO A HOME BUYER OR RENTER'S MONTHLY PAYMENTS. CURRENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS DO NOT SUPPORT AN INCREASE OF THIS MAGNITUDE. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NEXUS STUDIES THAT NEED FURTHER DISCOVERY. AS A MOST INTERESTED STAKEHOLDER, WE BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE BUILDING INDUSTRY TO DEVELOP A FEE PROGRAM THAT ALL PARTIES CAN SUPPORT AND WILL FUND THE CITY'S LONG-TERM [00:25:01] DEVELOPMENT PLANS IN A FAIR AND REASONABLE MANNER. IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, WE REQUEST SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF AND THEIR CONSULTANTS. WE'RE HOPEFUL THIS BE CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, BUT REALISTICALLY, GIVEN THE COMPLEXITY AND THE MAGNITUDE OF THE ISSUES, WE WOULD EXPECT IT WOULD TAKE LONGER. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THIS MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE. THANK YOU, SIR. JEFF SMITH, FOLLOWED BY GREG CHRISTINA. GOOD EVENING MAYOR MICHAEL AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. UH, MY NAME IS JEFF SMITH AND I'M HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING LENNAR HOMES. UH, FIRST I WANTED TO, UH, UH, BE THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LENNAR TO BUILD IN THIS, UH, GREAT CITY OF, UM, RANCH CUCAMONGA. AND WE HAVE TWO NEW COMMUNITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THE CITY, AND I WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US COLLABORATIVELY, UH, TO GET THESE COMMUNITIES, UM, OUT OF THE GROUND. BUT I'M HERE TONIGHT REALLY TO EXPRESS OUR GRAVE CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPOSED DIFF INCREASE. UM, FOR STARTERS, THE INCREASE IS EXTREMELY DRASTIC FOR A 2,500 SQUARE FOOT HOME. UH, THE PROPOSED INCREASE IS ABOUT $35,000 PER HOME, WHICH BRINGS A TOTAL FEE UP TO $61,465 PER HOME. THAT IS A DRAMATIC INCREASE THAT REALLY HAS NO PEER. THE FONTANA DIFF IS 17,900, RIALTO IS 17,065, ONTARIO IS 24,500. CHINO IS 36 907 2. SO AN AN INCREASE TO A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 60 1045. IT REALLY DEMANDS A THOROUGH VETTING AND UNDERSTANDING AND AN EXPLANATION TO THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO WILL HAVE TO PAY THIS, THIS PROPOSED FEE. UM, THE REPORTS AND ANALYSIS PROVIDED BY THE BUILDING INDUSTRY, UM, HAS SHOWN ERRORS IN INSUFFICIENT DETAIL AND LACK OF ADEQUATE ANALYSIS ON MANY ELEMENTS OF THE FEE STUDY. AND THESE ITEMS REALLY MUST BE RESOLVED TO PROVIDE A FAIR, BALANCED AND DEFENDABLE FEE STUDY. UM, THESE STUDIES DO PROVIDE LACK OF SUFFICIENT EXPLANATION REGARDING THE NEXUS AS WELL. SO WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE TWO WEEK, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR A CONTINUANCE, WE REALLY THINK A 60 DAY CONTINUANCE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE GIVEN OUR, UH, THE COMPLEXITY AND GIVEN OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THESE TYPES OF FEE STUDIES. SO WE ARE, UH, WE REC RESPECTFULLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU, UH, CONSIDER A 60 DAY CONTINUANCE ON THIS MATTER. UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. GREG CHRISTINA. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME'S CRAIG CHRISTINA WITH RICHLAND, AND IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING TO BE HERE TONIGHT, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU HAVING THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT'S BEING CONTINUED. BUT, UM, I FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT TO, UH, SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF TO CONTINUE IT. UM, LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID, I THINK, UM, GENERALLY THINGS TAKE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL WEEKS, UH, IF NOT A COUPLE MONTHS TO, TO WORK THROUGH. I'M NOT THE EXPERT IN IT. UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE WOULD APPRECIATE A CONTINUANCE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, GET TO THE 18TH AND POSSIBLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. UH, SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS NOT SAID. BUT GENERALLY, US AS DEVELOPERS DO APPRECIATE A ROBUST AND ACCURATE, UH, FEE PROGRAM. A LOT OF US BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE. WE GET FEE CREDITS AND RETURN FOR THAT. THE DOOR SWINGS BOTH WAYS. UM, BUT WE ALSO RELY HEAVILY ON THE BIA AND THEIR EXPERTS IN, IN VETTING THIS OUT. THE MAGNITUDE OF THE FEE INCREASE, UM, LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID IS, IS SUBSTANTIAL. SO, UH, WE'D LIKE THE BIA TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO, TO VET THROUGH WITH OUR EXPERTS, UM, RELAY THAT INFORMATION BACK TO US. HELP US UNDERSTAND. AND ANOTHER THING, ANOTHER THING THAT ALSO HASN'T REALLY BEEN DISCUSSED MUCH, UM, WHETHER BY LETTERS OR BY MEETING, IS REALLY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FEE PROGRAM. HOW IT GETS IMPLEMENTED, WHETHER IT'S, UM, ON DAY ONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SHORTENED TIME, WHETHER'S 60 DAYS OUT OR 90 DAYS OUT, WHETHER THERE'S A PHASE IN PROGRAM OR OTHER FINANCING OF, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS OUT THERE TO HELP, UH, MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT TO THE BUILDING COMMUNITY. SO, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS STUDIED FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND, UH, ALLOW A FEW MORE OPTIONS TO BE ON THE TABLE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CARLOS RODRIGUEZ. UH, GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS CARLOS RODRIGUEZ, UH, BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. I WANT TO THANK YOU, UH, FROM THE START. UH, STAFF IS LISTENING. UH, THEY'RE READY FOR COLLABORATION WITH BIA. WE'RE GETTING A CONTINUANCE. WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE DO BELIEVE 60 DAYS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. SO WE'RE, WE'RE COMMITTING TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND WORK AS DILIGENTLY AS WE [00:30:01] CAN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. UH, BUT WE DO BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE, UH, MORE TIME WILL BE NECESSARY. UH, ON BEHALF OF THE VIA SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WE DO APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATIVE, UH, WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY. UH, WE SUPPORT PAIRING OUR FAIR SHARE, BUT THE PROPOSED, UH, NEARLY, UH, HALF BILLION DOLLAR PROPOSED INCREASE, UH, IS POSING SERIOUS ECONOMIC, UH, CONCERNS FOR THE HOUSING MARKET. ADOPTING A FEE OF THIS MAGNITUDE, AVERAGING ABOUT $36,000. AS SAID EARLIER, PER DWELLING UNIT REPRESENTS 105% INCREASE FOR DETACHED HOMES AND 163% FOR ATTACHED HOMES. UH, THIS IS, UH, DISPROPORTIONATE TO CURRENT INFLATION AND UNSUSTAINABLE IN TODAY'S HOUSING MARKET WITH A 7% MORTGAGE RATE IN HIGH RENTS. UH, RANCHO CUCAMONGA, UH, WOULD BECOME THE LEAST COMPETITIVE AMONG ITS NEIGHBORING CITIES WITH A, WITH FEES A HUNDRED AND 140% HIGHER THAN ONTARIO AND 225% HIGHER THAN THE CITY OF FONTANA. THE INCREASE WOULD ADD, UH, AGAIN, UM, OVER $36,000 IN COSTS FOR A NEW HOME AND APPROXIMATELY $246, UH, IN RENT. UH, WE DO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A 60 DAY CONTINUANCE. WE HAVE OVER 40 PAGES OF COMMENTS THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO DIGGING INTO, UH, WITH STAFF REGARDING TRANSPORTATION FEES, FOR EXAMPLE. UH, THERE'S, UH, FOR THE 16% SERVICE POPULATION INCREASE, THERE'S ROUGHLY UPWARDS TO 99% OF PROGRAM COSTS ALLOCATED TO NEW DEVELOPMENT, UH, EXISTING DE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ALSO BENEFITS SHOULD BEAR A FAIR SHARE BASED ON TRIP CONTRIBUTIONS AND BUILD OUT. AND REGARDING NONT TRANSPORTATION FEES, WE'LL JUST TAKE PARKS FOR INSTANCE. UH, WE HAD QUESTIONS AND CLARITY REGARDING, FOR INSTANCE, CENTRAL PARK, UH, BEING REFERENCED. UH, WE BELIEVE IT'S 28 ACRES, NOT 39 ACRES. HERITAGE PARKS, 29 ACRES, NOT 40 ACRES. DAY CREEK PARK IS 10 ACRES, NOT 24 ACRES. ALSO, THE CITY OWNS ABOUT 88 ACRES OF UNIMPROVED PARK LAND. SO WHY ARE WE CONSIDERING ACQUIRING 80 MORE ACRES WHEN EXISTING LAND, UH, COULD MEET THOSE STANDARDS? UH, GIVEN THE 10 MONTH PREPARATION OF THE STUDY WITHOUT INDUSTRY INPUT THUS FAR, A 60 DAY CONTINUANCE IS REASONABLE TO ENSURE ACCURACY AND FAIRNESS AGAIN, UH, AS I GREW UP HERE IN RANCH CUCAMONGA, AND I REMEMBER RIDING MY BIKE, UH, DURING THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION, I REMEMBER, UH, THE GIPPER SAYING, TRUST BUT VERIFY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THIS COLLABORATIVE DIALOGUE, UH, WITH, UH, MR. GILSON AND YOUR FINE STAFF, IS TO REALLY ABLE TO AFFIRM THE ACCURACY OF, UH, THE CALCULATIONS AND ENSURE THAT WE, UH, MAINTAIN AFFORDABILITY AND THE APPROPRIATE FINANCING FOR YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKER CARDS I HAVE, BUT IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'S HERE THIS EVENING WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING THIS AGAIN ON DECEMBER 18TH. SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED, SO WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION, MR. MAYOR, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING SHOULD REMAIN OPEN 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE CONTINUED. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. UM, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS PUBLIC HEARING. LEAVE IT OPEN UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING AT DECEMBER 18TH AT SEVEN O'CLOCK HERE IN EAST COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT. UM, SO WE NEED A MOTION TO ENTERTAIN A, A DECISION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT, IMPACT FEES, NON TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT, IMPACT FEES, AND NEXUS STUDIES TO DECEMBER 18TH, 2024 AT 7:00 PM IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS HERE AT TEN FIVE HUNDRED CIVIC CENTER DRIVE. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? MOTION TO MOVE IT TO SENATE TO THE NEXT TIME? I'M SORRY, I FORGOT THE DATE OF DECEMBER 18TH. SECOND. VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT WITH MAYOR PRO TEM KENNEDY. ABSENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS THIS EVENINGS. UM, AND WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN PROBABLY ON DECEMBER 18TH. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT PUBLIC [G3. Public Hearing for Consideration of First Reading of Ordinance No. 1035, to be Read by Title Only and Waive Further Reading, Amending Chapter 17.62 of Article IV of Title 17 (Development Code) of the Rancho Cucamonga Municipal Code to Amend Nonconforming Use Provisions Concerning the Discontinuance of Nonconforming Uses. This Project is Exempt from Environmental Review Pursuant to Section 15161(b)(3) of the CEQA Guidelines. (ORDINANCE NO. 1035) (CITY)] OR ADVERTISED, UM, PUBLIC HEARING. AND THAT IS ITEM G THREE. MR. SISON? YES, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. SO ITEM G THREE IS AN ITEM, UM, THAT STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE NOW. IT'S BEEN ON OUR LIST AS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO GET DONE THIS CALENDAR YEAR. UM, JUST UNFORTUNATELY WITH A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS AND, AND THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING. UM, PLANNING HAS BEEN VERY BUSY. UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. SO, UM, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO JENNIFER NAKAMURA, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, AND SHE CAN GO THROUGH THE ITEM FOR YOU AS WELL AS [00:35:01] EXPLAIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION BEFORE IT CAME TO YOU, JENNIFER. THANK YOU MR. GELSON. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE CITY'S NON-CONFORMING USE REGULATIONS FOR INDUSTRIAL LAND USES. IN 2021, THE CITY REVISED ITS INDUSTRIAL STANDARDS TO REFLECT A DESIRE FOR A MORE DIVERSE INDUSTRIAL SECTOR. FURTHER CHANGES OCCURRED WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE COMPREHENSIVE CODE UPDATE IN 2022. THESE UPDATES RESULTED IN SOME PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED INDUSTRIAL USES IN CERTAIN ZONES TO NO LONGER BE ALLOWED. THESE NON, THESE CREATED NON-CONFORMING USES. THE NON-CONFORMING USE PROVISIONS THAT EXIST IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE. NOW ALLOW THESE USES TO CONTINUE WITHOUT INTERRUPTION, AND IN ADDITION, IF THE USER LEAVES THE BUILDING, A NEW USER CAN CONTINUE THAT SAME NON-CONFORMING USE. IF IT'S REESTABLISHED WITHIN 180 DAYS OF DISCONTINUATION BY THE PREVIOUS USER, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, UM, IS GENERALLY FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT WILL INCREASE THE DISCONTINUATION PERIOD FROM 180 DAYS TO 365 DAYS. THIS IS APPLICABLE TO INDUSTRIAL USES ONLY. SO THIS CHANGE IS BEING PROPOSED AFTER RECEIVING FEEDBACK FROM OUR INDUSTRIAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT IT CAN OFTEN TAKE LONGER TIMEFRAMES TO RE-TENANT OR REOCCUPY INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, RATHER THAN A TYPICAL SHORTER TURNAROUND FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, GENERALLY DUE TO THEIR SIZE AND CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS. ON NOVEMBER 13TH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. A COMMENT WAS RECEIVED ASKING THE DISCONTINUATION PERIOD TO INCREASE FROM 180 DAYS TO TWO YEARS. THE COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE REQUEST AS PART OF THEIR DELIBERATIONS, BUT FELT THAT ONE YEAR WAS A MORE APPROPRIATE TIMELINE TO ALLOW NON-CONFORMING USES TO REESTABLISH. UM, THE COMMISSION HAD A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THEY FELT THAT TWO YEARS REALLY CREATED A MUCH LONGER TIMEFRAME FOR THESE TYPES OF NON-CONFORMING USES. UM, WITH THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONDUCT FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 10 35 BY TITLE ONLY AND WAIVE FURTHER THEIR READING. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S COMMENTS. AND WE'RE HERE. I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEEING NONE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER AND THAT IS ROBERT CLOSE. UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR MICHAEL, MEMBERS CITY COUNCIL. UH, THANKS FOR, UH, HEARING OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS NON-CONFORMING USE ISSUE. UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS ROBERT CLOSE. I'M WITH BRIDGE DISTRICTS PROPERTIES. WE, UH, ACQUIRED THE BUILDING AT 1 0 8 0 8 SIXTH STREET IN EARL IN EARLY 2022. UM, IT'S A 200,000 SQUARE FOOT, SINGLE U SINGLE LOAD DISTRIBUTION BU BUILDING DESIGNED, UH, DESIGNED FOR MULTIPLE TENANTS. UH, SHORTLY AFTER ACQUISITION, WITHIN A COUPLE MONTHS, THE, THE ZONING CHANGE OCCURRED AND THE BUILDING BECAME NON-CONFORMING. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE APPRECIATE THAT STAFF HAS LISTENED TO THE CONCERNS OF THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE, WE, WE DO THINK THAT THIS STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO I DON'T WANNA SEEM 'EM LIKE WE'RE UNAPPRECIATIVE OF THE EFFORT TO KIND OF DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE, BUT I THINK THE RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME OF A YEAR, UM, AS OPPOSED TO TWO YEARS, HAS A LOT OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE CITY AND THE, AND THE INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITY ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE ALIGNED WITH, I BELIEVE. SO THERE'S KIND OF TWO MAJOR ISSUES THAT I THINK ARE AT PLAY HERE. UM, THE FIRST IS THAT THE RE TENDING THESE BUILDINGS FOR THE MOST DESIRABLE TENANT THAT THE CITY WANTS, THE ONES THAT REDUCE THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, INCREASE THE JOB COUNT, GET HIGHER PAYING JOBS, REALITY IS TO DESIGN PLAN AND PERMITT IT'S A YEAR. SO IF I HAVE MY BUILDING GO VACANT ON DAY ONE AND FOUR MONTHS IN, I GET THIS DREAM TENANT FOR THE CITY THAT WANTS 20,000 FEET OFFICE SPACE TO EMPLOY 150 PEOPLE, I HAVE TO SAY NO BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE THE FIRST LEASE THAT'LL TAKE THE BUILDING AS IS BECAUSE THAT YEAR BUILD OUT'S NOT GONNA FALL WITHIN THE YEAR THAT THIS PROVISION PROVIDES. YOU KNOW, THE TWO YEAR PERIOD PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU'VE GOT A YEAR TO LEASE THE BUILDING, WHERE EVEN A DOWNTURN YOU'VE GOT A GOOD PERIOD OF TIME TO FIND A TENANT, THEN A YEAR TO DO THE BUILD OUT, TO GET 'EM MOVED IN. UM, THE SECOND MAJOR ISSUE THAT THAT'S CERTAINLY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE THAT, UM, WARRANTS DISCUSSION IS, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THIS, THESE BUILDINGS IN LEGAL NONCONFORMING STATUS, THEY'RE VIEWED AS RISKIER BY LENDERS AND OTHER CAPITAL PARTNERS. SO AGAIN, FOR TENANTS THAT WANT HIGHER POWER FOR MANUFACTURING MORE OFFICE SPACE TO, TO EMPLOY MORE PEOPLE, WE CAN'T GET FUNDING FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, EVEN ROUTINE BUILDING MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THIS BUILDING IS A BLACK SHEEP IN THE DEBT MARKETS WE CAN GET FUNDING FOR. SO I MEAN, I THINK THE BUILDINGS ARE UNLIKELY TO BE REDEVELOPED FOR THE NEW ZONING CODE, ALTHOUGH EXISTING LEGAL NONCONFORMING BUILDINGS, I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS THAT. UM, SO I THINK THE RESULT OF THIS IS REALLY JUST PUTTING THIS A POSITION WHERE WE'RE JUST DEFENSIVELY GONNA LEASE [00:40:01] TO THE FIRST GROUP THAT WE NEED TO JUST TO PRESERVE THOSE RIGHTS. AND THAT LARGE IS GONNA RESULT A LOT OF THREE PLS WITH LOWER HEAD COUNTS, LOWER EMPLOYMENTS, HIGHER TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS IF YOU GIVE US TWO FULL YEARS, WE'VE GOT A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE CITY, THE, THE TENANTS THAT ARE BEST FOR BOTH THE CITY AND US. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE LAST COMMENT. I REALIZE THAT MOST OTHER CITIES A YEAR IS PRETTY STANDARD OR SIX MONTHS IS EVEN COMMON, BUT THIS, IT'S NOT UNPRECEDENTED. I MEAN, YOUR, YOUR CODE CHANGE WAS FAIRLY DRASTIC. UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST APPLY FOR A CUP. I MEAN WE, WE REALLY CAN'T, IF WE LOSE OUR NONCONFORMING RIGHT, THERE'S REALLY NOT A TENANT THAT COULD GO IN OUR BUILDING. IT'S PROBABLY A REDEVELOPMENT WHERE WE'VE GOTTA TAKE OUR VERY ODD SHAPED SITE AND TRY TO PUT A BUNCH OF 25 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS THERE. IT'S JUST A COMPLETE NIGHTMARE. SO WITH KIND OF THAT BACKDROP, I THINK A LITTLE BIT LONGER PERIOD THAN SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES IS, IS WARRANTED. UM, THE ONLY OTHER CITY I'VE WORKED OF, BUT I HAVEN'T DONE IT EXTENSIVE RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, NEWER CALIFORNIA IN 2019 HAD A SIMILAR CODE CHANGE. UM, AND THEY, IN THE INTEREST OF HAVING A SIMILAR SITUATION WITH DOZENS OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, UH, THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE AN INDEFINITE, UM, LEGAL NONCONFORMING PERIOD, UH, FOR THOSE PROPERTIES. UM, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT RECONFIGURED OR EXPANDED, I'M NOT PROPOSING THAT, BUT TWO YEARS REALLY DOES GO A LONG WAY AND I THINK IT BENEFITS BOTH US AND THE CITY. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, CAN I ASK JENNIFER, CAN YOU CLARIFY, JEN, IF SOMEBODY FOUND A TENANT WITHIN A YEAR SIGNED A LEASE MM-HMM AND THEN WAS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF A, OF A TENANT IMPROVEMENT, UM, UH, WOULD THAT, OR WOULD THAT NOT TOLL THE TIMEFRAME THAT WOULD TOLL THE TIMEFRAME IF THEY, WE'VE TYPICALLY BEEN USING THE APPLICATION OF A BUSINESS LICENSE AS SORT OF THE, THE TIMEFRAME TO DETERMINE AND ESTABLISH THAT THERE'S AN INTENT TO USE THAT BUILDING. SO USUALLY IT'S ASSIGNED LEASE AND AN APPLICATION FOR BUSINESS LICENSE. SO ANY INTERIOR OR OTHER TENANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE COULD STILL BE DONE, BUT THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY, UH, EAT INTO THE NON-CONFORMING USE TIMEFRAME. IF I MIGHT JUST ADD ANOTHER COMMENT, UM, IF THE GOAL IS TO FIND A TENANT THAT THE CITY WANTS, IN OTHER WORDS, A TENANT THAT CONFORMS TO OUR ZONING CODE, A PROPERTY OWNER HAS AS MUCH TIME AS THEY WANT TO FIND THAT TENANT BECAUSE THIS ORDINANCE ONLY ADDRESSES THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO LEAVE A BUILDING VACANT. IN OTHER WORDS, NON NON-USE OF THAT NON-CONFORMING USE BEFORE IT EXPIRES. AND THEY HAVE TO CONFORM THE PROPERTY TO THE ZONING CODE. SO IF THE GOAL IS TO FIND A TENANT THAT CONFORMS TO OUR ZONING CODE, THEY HAVE AS MUCH TIME, YOU NEVER LOSE THAT. RIGHT? AND YOU HAVE AS MUCH TIME TO FIND THAT TENANT AS THEY NEED. SO I GET, MY QUESTION WOULD BE THEN IN THE COURSE OF SIX MONTHS OR THE YEAR THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDING, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO WHAT WAS STATED EARLIER BY THE SPEAKER TO GET A HIGHER END USE, THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED UNDER ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION. IF THEY FOUND SOMEBODY OR A BUSINESS THAT WANTED TO MOVE IN THERE BUT NEEDED A BUNCH OF TENANT IMPROVEMENTS AND CHANGES TO THE BUILDING WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME, THEY COULD TAKE, THEY COULD GO UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND IT WOULD BE, WELL THAT GOES TO WHAT JEN WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT AND YES, THE CITY, UH, AND I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH JEN ON THIS, THE CITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, THE CITY LOOKS TO WHETHER THE PROPERTY OWNER IS IN GOOD FAITH MAKING EFFORTS TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR THAT NON-CONFORMING USE THE ISSUE THAT THIS CODE AND MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE A SIMILAR ORDINANCE. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO NOT LET A VACANT BUILDING LANGUISH AND SIT VACANT WITHOUT ANY EFFORTS TO BRING IN A TENANT THAT OCCUPIES THAT NON-CONFORMING USE. AND SO IT'S PUTTING A TIMELINE ON THERE TO MOTIVATE A PROPERTY OWNER TO PUT A TENANT IN THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE THAT NON-CONFORMING USE. AND IF NOT, THE CITY HAS A LEGITIMATE INTEREST IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROPERTY IS BROUGHT INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE WITHIN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME. MR. MAYOR, TO THAT END, WE JUST HAD AN EXAMPLE IN THE LAST, UH, WELL ACTUALLY IT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WHERE WE HAD A BUILDING OWNER WITH A PROPERTY AND THEY ACTUALLY SIGNED A TENANT TO A LEASE AND THE TENANT, THEY SIGNED TO THE LEASE AND THE TERMS OF THE LEASE ACTUALLY DID NOT EVEN CONFORM WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THEY WERE UNDER. BUT WE WORKED WITH THEM AND IT TOOK ALMOST 18 MONTHS 'CAUSE IT WAS SUCH AN EXTENSIVE MODIFICATION. BUT WE LET IT GO. WE WORKED WITH THEM, WE GOT THE CHANGES MADE, WE GOT EVERYTHING APPROVED, UM, AND THEY FINALLY FINISHED THE CONSTRUCTION. THE TENANT WAS ABLE TO START A LITTLE BIT OF WORK, BUT ONLY A VERY TINY PORTION OF WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO WHILE IT WAS ONGOING. BUT WE WORKED WITH THEM IN THAT. SO IT REALLY IS THAT INITIAL AS, UM, AS JENNIFER INDICATED, IF IF THEY GET THE TENANT SIGN THE LEASE PULL, A BUSINESS LICENSE, BUSINESS LICENSE IS USUALLY A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS AT THAT, UM, THEN WE'LL WORK WITH THEM. AND IF IT TAKES 'EM SIX MONTHS, IF IT TAKES 'EM 18 MONTHS, [00:45:01] I MEAN THEY COULD BE CONVERTING A BUILDING FROM LOGISTICS TO COLD STORAGE AS AN EXAMPLE, WHICH IS AN EXTENSIVE RENOVATION. WE WILL WORK WITH THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THE, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THE BUILDINGS GO UNDER USE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO FIND AND AND ACQUIRE HIGHER END USERS THAT WOULD GENERATE MORE REVENUE TO, TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE, FOR THE DIFFERENT USES RATHER THAN JUST STORING PAPER PRODUCTS, FOR INSTANCE. AND A A DIFFERENT USE COMPLETELY THAT WOULD BRING IN MORE EMPLOYMENT, UM, POSSIBLY MORE REVENUE FROM SALES TAX OR WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE. IS THAT NOT FAIR TO SAY? YEAH. YES. AND AS, AS NICK INDICATED, IF THE GOAL IS TO GET A TENANT THAT CONFORMS WITH THE NEW ZONING CODE, YOU LITERALLY DO HAVE AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME. 'CAUSE IT'S THE NEW ZONING CODE THAT'S IN EFFECT. SO I MEAN, WE, WE WILL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. I, UM, MR. BURRIS AND I HAVE A PROJECT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER ON, UM, AND I THINK, I BELIEVE IT GOES BACK, UH, EIGHT YEARS, I THINK ABOUT EIGHT YEARS NOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A VERY SPECIALIZED PROJECT AND TENANTS THAT THEY WANNA WORK WITH. SO WE'LL WORK AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO, TO GET SOMEBODY IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, AND NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS MADE CLEAR THAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL ALSO IS STRIKING A SENTENCE THAT GAVE SOME CONCERN TO, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT SAID ANY PERIOD OF NON-USE, UH, APPLIES TO THAT CURRENTLY SIX MONTH PERIOD. SO THE POINT WAS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IF A PROPERTY OWNER IS TAKING STEPS IN GOOD FAITH TO FIND A TENANT, THAT WE WILL WORK WITH THEM, UM, THAT POSSIBLY PASSED WHAT WOULD NOW BE ONE YEAR MM-HMM. , UH, TO GET THAT TENANT IN IF THEY FOUND ONE BEFORE THE YEAR EXPIRES. OKAY. AND, AND THE ADVANTAGE THERE THEN IS WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF VACANT BUILDINGS SITTING AROUND BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST SITTING ON IT. OKAY. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR FOR QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR, AND OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? I DO. MR. MAYOR. YES. UM, ONE OF 'EM WAS PARTIALLY ANSWERED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHAT THE CITY'S LEVEL OF DISCRETION WOULD BE. IF WE HAD A, A OWNER HERE THAT HAD A LEASE OR A PROSPECTIVE LEASE COMING UP AGAINST THE END OF THAT ONE YEAR TERM, WE WOULD HAVE SOME LEEWAY TO WORK WITH THEM AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS A PACKAGE IN PLACE, AT LEAST THAT IT WAS ON ITS WAY A GOOD FAITH ATTEMPT TO HAVE, UH, A TENANT PROCURED. AND THERE WOULDN'T REALLY BE A LIMIT TO OUR DISCRETION. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I THINK THERE'S A LIMIT TO OUR DI DISCRETION BECAUSE WE CAN'T VIOLATE OUR ZONING CODE, BUT I THINK STAFF HAS MADE A VERY REASONABLE INTERPRETATION TO SAY THAT IF THERE IS A TENANT IDENTIFIED AND A LEASE SIGNED, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO IN AT SOME POINT, EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, THE TENANT IS NOT OPERATING THE NON-CONFORMING USE UNTIL AFTER THE SIX MONTH NOW ONE YEAR PERIOD. OKAY. AND, AND IN ACTIVE PRACTICE, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT IF AN APPLICANT IS GETTING, OR IF A DEVELOPER'S GETTING CLOSE A PROPERTY OWNER'S GETTING CLOSE TO THAT TIMEFRAME, THEY'RE IN REGULAR CONTACT WITH US TO UPDATE US ON LEASE NEGOTIATIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, KNOWING THAT CLOSE, IF, IF THERE'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF CLOSENESS THERE, WE CAN CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM. AND, AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT TO MANY OF OUR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY OWNERS. SO WE CONTINUALLY TRY TO WORK WITH THEM IN A MORE, IN A VERY COLLABORATIVE MANNER TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE BUILDINGS DON'T GO UNUSED. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BRING IN A HIGHER LEVEL TYPE OF USER SUCH AS, UM, YOU KNOW, A MANUFACTURING TYPE USER, THOSE ARE GENERALLY PERMITTED BY RIGHT. AND AGAIN, THEY HAVE AS MUCH TIME AS THEY NEED TO CONTINUE TO, TO MOVE THAT PROCESS FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, ADDITIONAL QUESTION, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE CHALLENGES THAT STAFF WOULD HAVE IF THIS WAS EXTENDED INSTEAD OF, UM, TO ONE YEAR, IF IT WAS TWO YEARS? HOW THAT WOULD MAKE IT JUST MORE CHALLENGING TO TRACK? IT IS MORE CHALLENGING TO TRACK. UM, AND THERE IS A POINT WHERE, UM, YOU, YOU CAN LOSE TRACK OF RECORD KEEPING FROM START TO FINISH AS SOMEBODY IS GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. UH, AND, AND SO IT DEFINITELY IS SOMETHING THAT WE, UM, FOUND THAT SIX MONTHS IS VERY TIGHT AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PROACTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS AND BROKERS TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. UM, WE DO ALSO UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES THEIR LEAST NEGOTIATIONS STALL AND TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT, UM, IT CAN BE VERY, IT CAN BE GET VERY EASY AND VERY QUICK TO LOSE TRACK OF WHERE SOMETHING IS IN THE PROCESS. UM, IF YOU EXTEND IT OUT. UM, TWO YEARS, MORE YEARS, WE DID DO A SURVEY OF [00:50:01] SURROUNDING, UH, OF NEIGHBORING CITIES IN THE INLAND EMPIRE, UM, AS WELL AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. UH, NOT A SINGLE COMMUNITY THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANT INDUSTRIAL FOOTPRINT IN THE INLAND EMPIRE GOES PAST ONE YEAR. THAT'S HELPFUL, THANK YOU. UM, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. CLOSE MENTIONED THAT OUR, OUR CODE, UM, CHANGE, UM, ZONE CHANGE WAS PRETTY DRASTIC AND AFFECTED HIS PROPERTY. IS THERE ANY IDEA, AND I'M, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT IN OUR ZONE CHANGE HOW MANY PROPERTIES THERE ARE IN THE CITY THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED, UM, ONCE THE ZONING WAS CHANGED AND ARE DECLARED NON-CONFORMING? SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE ZONING AS WELL AS THE USE THAT MAKES THAT NON-CONFORMING DECLARATION. SO THE PROPERTY, WHATEVER ITS ZONING IS, IS THE BASE, BUT THEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY TAKING THE ACTUAL USE OF THE PROPERTY AND WHAT THE BUSINESS TYPE IS IN THERE TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S A CONFORMING, A PERMITTED USE OR A NON-CONFORMING USE AND IT'S NO LONGER ALLOWED. SO IF I COULD USE AN EXAMPLE IN BROAD BRUSH STROKES HERE, UM, WE HAVE A PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A WAREHOUSE OR LOGISTICS FACILITY IN THAT ZONE. IT'S NO LONGER ALLOWED, THAT'S A NON-CONFORMING USE. UM, IF IT WAS A MANUFACTURING USE OR A A TECHNOLOGY CENTER OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF USE THAT WAS CURRENT, THAT EVEN WITH THE ZONE CHANGE IS NOW STILL PERMITTED, THEN IT IS CONSIDERED A CONFORMING USE. SO IT'S MORE THAN, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN JUST THE BUILDING OR THE ZONE, IT'S THE COMBINATION OF THE ZONING PLUS THE ACTUAL USE THAT'S GOING ON IN THAT BUILDING. SO AS FAR AS NUMBERS GO, I PROB I, I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO, UM, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO GIVE CONSIDERATION TO, MAY I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION, MR. MAYOR? SURE. UM, IF THIS MOTION OR THIS PUBLIC HEARING AS AN ORDINANCE IS ADOPTED, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER ORDINANCE, WE CAN AMEND IT LATER IF WE FIND THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT, CORRECT? YES. SO DO ADOPTING THE ORDINANCE, WELL INTRODUCING IT TONIGHT WILL ONLY HELP ADDRESS THE SITUATION THAT MR. CLOSE PRESENTED, WHICH IS EXTENDING IT FROM SIX MONTH, THE NONCONFORMING PERIOD FROM SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. BUT THE COUNSEL CAN ALWAYS RECONSIDER WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AT A FUTURE DATE. SO THIS CAN'T, THIS WON'T MAKE IT ANY WORSE. AND I GUESS TO JUST ADD ON TO THAT, THE POINT, UM, WHETHER THIS DOESN'T CHANGE WHETHER A USE IS NON-CONFORMING OR NOT, ANY NON-CONFORMING USE WILL CONTINUE TO REMAIN A NON-CONFORMING USE. SO I THINK THE ISSUE ABOUT WHETHER THE ZONING CODE UPDATE FROM TWO YEARS AGO AFFECTED, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO FILL A VACANCY, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN A SEPARATE TRACK. AND IF I, IF I CAN JUST ADD TO THAT, UM, UH, JENNIFER AND HER TEAM ARE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THE USE TABLE. UM, SO AS SHE WAS EXPLAINING IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE PROPERTY AND THE ZONE IT'S IN, BUT THEN IT'S, HOW'S IT BEING USED? THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE USE TABLES FOR THIS TO SEE IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL UPDATES AND ADDITIONAL, UH, USES THAT COULD BE INCLUDED TO HELP BROADEN IT TO, TO ALLOW FOR POTENTIALLY MORE, UH, TYPES OF USES TO, TO BE ELIGIBLE, UM, TO GO INTO SOME OF THESE ZONES. SO THAT IS A, A WORK THAT'S ALREADY IN PROGRESS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE ABLE TO BRING FORWARD IN THE NEW CALENDAR YEAR AS WELL. SO THAT WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THIS IN ADDITION TO IF YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH AN EXTENSION TONIGHT TO 12 MONTHS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, ANOTHER QUESTION IS, HOW OFTEN DOES IT COME ACROSS YOUR DESK WHERE YOU HAVE AN OWNER OF A PROPERTY THAT HAS HAD THEIR NON-CONFORMING AVAILABILITY REVOKED DUE TO NOT BEING IN USE ON THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE? I HAVE, IT'S, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TERRIBLY OFTEN. MOST INDUSTRIAL USERS HAVE LONG LEASE TIMES. SURE WE WILL, WE WILL SEE IT IN COMMERCIAL SPACES, UM, OCCASIONALLY WHERE AS THE COMMERCIAL USE HAS TURNED OVER OVER TIME, THAT USE, MAYBE IT WAS A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL SERVICE AND THEN IT WENT TO A, A PAINTING STORE AND THEN IT WENT TO SOME OTHER TYPE OF RETAIL AND NOW IT WANTS TO GO BACK TO A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL SERVICE THAT THAT WILL SOMETIMES HAPPEN WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO AND REAPPLY FOR THEIR PERMITS AND IT'S NO LONGER A CONFORMING USE. UM, ON THE, THE, UH, INDUSTRIAL SIDE, [00:55:01] WE DON'T SEE IT AS OFTEN, BUT WE ARE, WE DO SEE IT OCCASIONALLY MORE AS THE ZONE CHANGES HAVE HAPPENED, BUT THE DEVELOP, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE BROKER COMMUNITY HAVE, UM, WE HAVE OPENED OUR, UM, LINES OF COMMUNICATION TO ENSURE THAT LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE, WE DO WANNA WORK WITH THEM AND THEY WILL CALL US WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING. UM, WE HAVE TALKED WITH, UM, SEVERAL OF THE BROKERS WHO HAVE TALKED TO US AND SAID, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES WE WILL KNOW SIX MONTHS BEFORE A LEASE EXPIRES THAT SOMEBODY'S NOT GONNA RENEW ON THE BIGGER PROPERTIES. IT COULD BE A YEAR. AND SO THEY WILL THEN INITIATE IN SOME CASES THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH US EARLY AND GIVE US A HEADS UP SO THAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW BEST TO SUPPORT THEM AND WHETHER IT'S A MATTER OF WE'RE SUPPORTING THEM JUST BY HELPING THEM KEEP TRACK OF TIME OR HELPING THEM MANAGE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROCESS TO KEEP THEM WITHIN THOSE NON-CONFORMING REGULATIONS. UH, IN SOME CASES WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO HELP GO OUT AND HELP WITH HELP THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, ATTRACT, YOU KNOW, NEW BUSINESSES. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. I MEAN, THIS IS CERTAINLY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION GIVING SOME OF THESE USERS MORE TIME TO FILL, FILL THAT SPACE. AND I IMAGINE A LOT OF THE, THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE COME JUST FROM SIMPLE ECONOMICS, WHETHER THERE'S DEMAND FOR THAT KIND OF SPACE OR NOT, WHICH MEANS, UH, PERHAPS THERE'S ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS LATER ON IF THIS IS NOT THE CORRECT TIMELINE. BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM, , I PROMISE I'M DONE ASKING QUESTIONS. THAT'S OKAY. ANYTIME YOU MAY ASK AWAY, SIR. OKAY. SIR, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND INTRODUCE ORDINANCE NUMBER 1 0 3 3 TO BE READ BY TITLE ONLY AND WAIVE FURTHER READING? IS IT 1 0 3 5 1 0 3 3 5 3 5 3 5. OKAY. THERE'S, OKAY, IT'S UP ON THE BODY BUT DOWN HERE WAS THREE. THREE, OKAY. THREE FIVE. I'M SORRY. YEAH, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION MR. MAYOR TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. 10 35, I'LL SECOND PLEASE VOTE. ORDINANCE NUMBER 1 0 3 5. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CALIFORNIA APPROVING A MUNICIPAL CODE AMENDMENT TO AMEND SECTION 17.6240 OF CHAPTER 17.62 OF ARTICLE FOUR OF TITLE 17 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE CONCERNING THE DISCONTINUANCE OF NON-CONFORMING USES AND FINDING AN, AN EXEMPTION FROM CQA UNDER SECTION 1 5 0 6 1 B THREE OF THE CA GUIDELINES. THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM KENNEDY. ABSENT. THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. OKAY, OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER H ON OUR [H. CITY MANAGER'S STAFF REPORT(S)] AGENDA AND THAT IS CITY MANAGER STAFF REPORT. [H1. Consideration to Approve the Implementation of Medic Squad 178. (FIRE)] SO I'LL TURN THAT OVER NOW TO OUR CITY MANAGER. MR. GILSON? YES, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. SO I, I WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR FIRE TEAM THIS EVENING. I WAS GONNA MAKE A JOKE. THEY BROUGHT A WHOLE ENGINE 'CAUSE I GOT FOUR PEOPLE. UM, SO, OR A TRUCK. UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, LET ME INTRODUCE, WE, UH, THE FIRE TEAM WHO'S GONNA PRESENT ON THIS ITEM. UM, WE HAVE MCKENZIE ROHA, OUR FIRE DATA ANALYST. UH, WE HAVE AGIE BERETTA, OUR DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF TY HARRIS, ALSO A DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF, AND DARCY VOGEL, OUR FIRE BUSINESS MANAGER. AND THEY'RE GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH, UM, THE PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM, UM, THE DATA THAT THEY'VE COMPILED, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU MR. GILSON. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MACKENZIE. UM, AND A YEAR AGO YOU GUYS APPROVED MY POSITION OF A DA FIRE DATA ANALYST, SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND I'M EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU TONIGHT, UM, A DEPLOYMENT ANALYSIS OF MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 AND ITS IMPACT OF ENSURING THE RIGHT RESOURCE IS BEING SENT TO THE RIGHT PATIENT AT THE RIGHT TIME. IN TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION, I'LL BE GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF THE OBJECTIVE OF MEDIC SQUAD 1 78, THE IMPACT THAT STATION EIGHT HAS HAD TO OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS MEDIC SQUAD ONE 70 EIGHT'S DEPLOYMENT DISTRIBUTION IN TERMS OF MONTH, DAY OF WEEK, AND HOUR OF DAY, THE CALL TYPES AS WELL AS THE LOW ACUITY IMPACT THE SQUAD HAS SEEN. THEN OUR FIRE BUSINESS MANAGER, DARCY, WILL JUMP IN WITH THE FINANCIAL IMPACT AND CHIEF BERETTA WILL CLOSE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. SO TO GIVE BACKGROUND, THE DATA FOR THIS ANALYSIS WAS EXPORTED FROM IMAGETREND ELITE, UM, AND ALTHOUGH MEDIC SQUAD 1 7 8 DID GO INTO SERVICE ON MAY 25TH, 2024, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS ANALYSIS, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE TIMEFRAME OF JUNE 1ST [01:00:01] TO OCTOBER 31ST, 2024. SO LOOKING AT 2021 THROUGH 2024 FROM JUNE ONE TO OCTOBER 31ST, THE FI BRANCH, CUCAMONGA FIRE DISTRICT HAS SEEN A UNIT RESPONSE INCREASE OF 3.17% YEAR OVER YEAR WITH A 3.33% INCIDENT INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR AS WELL. NOW UNITS DISPATCHED ARE INFLUENCED BY THE NATURE OF THE INCIDENT IN TERMS OF SEVERITY AND COMPLEXITY. SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONE INCIDENT MAY UM, RESULT IN TWO UNITS OR EVEN THREE UNITS RESPONDING TO THAT SINGULAR INCIDENT. SO WITH THE GROWING DEMAND OF THE CITY, THIS JUMPS INTO THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF MEDIC SQUAD 1 7 8. SO THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 IS TO RESPOND TO LOW ACUITY CALLS, WHICH LOW ACUITY INCIDENTS ARE INCIDENTS IN WHICH A PATIENT'S MEDICAL NEEDS ARE NOT LIFE THREATENING AND REQUIRE MINIMAL EMERGENCY MEDICAL INTERVENTION. THIS INCREASES THE AVAILABILITY OF EMERGENCY RESOURCES TO CRITICAL INCIDENTS, IMPROVING THE OVERALL EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN. BEFORE DIVING INTO MEDIC SQUAD ONE 70 EIGHT'S DATA, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE IMPACT THAT STATION 1 78 HAS HAD TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO FROM JUNE ONE TO OCTOBER 31, THE RANCH CUCAMONGA FIRE DISTRICT RAN 10,487 UNIT RESPONSES ACROSS 8,204 DISTINCT INCIDENTS. OF THOSE 10,487 UNIT RESPONSES, STATION 1 78 RESPONDED TO 26.41%. WITHIN THAT MEDIC ENGINE 1 78 RESPONDED TO 12.9%, WHEREAS MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 RESPONDED TO 13.51%. THROUGHOUT THIS ANALYSIS AS WELL AS TODAY, MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 IS THE RANCH CU CUCAMONGA FIRE DISTRICT'S MOST ACTIVE UNIT. NOW LOOKING AT MEDIC SQUAD ONE 70 EIGHT'S DEPLOYMENT. SO FROM JUNE ONE TO OCTOBER 31, MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 RESPONDED TO 1,417 INCIDENTS. OF THOSE 80.95% WERE INDEPENDENT, MEANING MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 ARRIVED ON SCENE ALONGSIDE AN A MR UNIT, WHEREAS 19.05% OF THE TIME, ANOTHER RANCHO CUCAMONGA FIRE DISTRICT APPARATUS WAS THE PRIMARY RESOURCE ON SCENE. WHEREAS MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 SERVED AS THE SECONDARY UNIT ON AVERAGE MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 IS BEING DISPATCHED TO NINE INCIDENTS PER DAY WITH A MINIMUM OF THREE AND A MAXIMUM OF 19 INCIDENTS PER DAY. OF THESE INCIDENTS, 76.08% ARE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WITHIN EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES. THE TOP THREE INCIDENT TYPES ARE A PATIENT WHO HAS FALLEN, A PATIENT WHO IS SICK, AS WELL AS A PATIENT WITH ABDOMINAL PAIN. NEXT, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT MEDIC SQUAD'S DISTRIBUTION IN TERMS OF MONTH AS WELL AS DAY OF WEEK. THE MOST ACTIVE MONTH FOR MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 WAS JUNE WITH 297 INCIDENTS, AND ITS LEAST ACTIVE MONTH WAS OCTOBER WITH 278 INCIDENTS, WHICH IS A 2.12% DIFFERENCE. WHEREAS LOOKING AT THE DAY OF WEEK DISTRIBUTION, THURSDAY WAS THE MOST ACTIVE DAY OF THE WEEK WITH 211 INCIDENTS, WHEREAS TWO WAS THE LEAST ACTIVE WITH 196 INCIDENTS OF WHICH IS A 1.06% DIFFERENCE. THE DATA SUGGESTS THAT ANY DIFFERENCE IN MONTH OR DAY OF WEEK MAY BE DUE TO NATURAL FLUCTUATIONS AND CANNOT BE PROVEN STATISTICALLY AS TO WHY ONE EITHER MONTH OR DAY OF WEEK IS OCCURRING AT A GREATER VOLUME THAN THE OTHER. NEXT, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE HOUR OF DAY DISTRIBUTION. THIS CHART DISPLAYS INCIDENT VOLUME BASED ON A 24 HOUR PERIOD AND THREE HOUR INCREMENTS. MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 IS THE LEAST ACTIVE FROM MIDNIGHT THROUGH 6:00 AM WITH A GRADUAL INCREASE THROUGHOUT THE MORNING PEAKING MIDDAY, AND THEN BEGINNING THAT DECLINE BACK AGAIN AND THROUGH THE NIGHT. THIS TREND HIGHLIGHTS THAT THE HIGHEST DEMAND FOR SERVICE IS MIDDAY TO EARLY EVENING WITH STEADY OPERATIONS CONTINUING THROUGHOUT QUIETER PERIODS. ALTHOUGH CALL VOLUME IS DROPPING OVERNIGHT, THE DISTRICT IS REMAINING CONSISTENTLY ACTIVE HANDLING INCIDENTS AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. THIS CHART HERE IS DISPLAYING AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 IS GOING IN OUR CITY. NOW, PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS CHART HERE IS A OVERVIEW OF WHERE EACH OF OUR EIGHT STATIONS ARE LOCATED WITH A 1.5 MILE RADIUS SURROUNDING EACH FIRE STATION. WITH THAT, WE CAN SEE THAT MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 BEING STATIONED AT STATION 1 78 IS VERY ACTIVE IN THE 1.5 MILE RADIUS OF STATION EIGHT, [01:05:01] AS WELL AS VERY ACTIVE IN THE 1.5 MILE RADIUS OF STATION 1 71, WHICH IS THE RED RING AND THE BROWN RING. NOW MOVING ON TO CALL TYPES A MEDIC SQUAD ONE SEVENTY EIGHT IS BEING DISPATCHED AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WITH THE SOLE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF LOW ACUITY DISPATCHES. NOW, ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES INFORMATION SYSTEM, LOW ACUITY IS REFERRING TO A PATIENT WITH A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT IS CONSIDERED LESS SEVERE, NOT IMMEDIATELY LIFE-THREATENING AND REQUIRING MINIMAL EMERGENCY INTERVENTION, WHEREAS HIGH ACUITY IS REFERRING TO A PATIENT WITH A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT IS SEVERE REQUIRING IMMEDIATE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT AND INTERVENTIONS AT POTENTIALLY RAPID TRANSPORT TO A HOSPITAL. NOW, 45.31% OF INCIDENTS THAT WE RESPOND TO DO HAVE AN EMD CALL TYPE FROM DISPATCH, MEANING THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AS EITHER LOW ACUITY OR HIGH ACUITY DISPATCHES. NOW LOOKING INTO THE LOW ACUITY DISPATCHES, WHICH ARE 17.14%, THIS TRANSLATES TO 1,840 INCIDENTS OF LOW ACUITY INCIDENTS OF THAT MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 HAS RESPONDED TO 1,157 OF THOSE INCIDENTS FROM JUNE ONE TO OCTOBER 31ST, 2024, WHICH MEDIC SQUAD IS BEING DISPATCHED TO 63.12% OF THE DISTRICT'S LOW ACUITY INCIDENTS, WHEREAS OUR OTHER FRONTLINE APPARATUSES ARE RESPONDING AT A PERCENTAGE LESS THAN 7% WITH THE MEDIC ENGINE 1 78, THE SECOND MOST ACTIVE UNIT IN LOW ACUITY INCIDENTS WITH ONLY RESPONDING TO 6.98%. NOW, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN AND HOW DOES IT IMPACT OUR OTHER FRONTLINE APPARATUS? WELL, WITH EMERGENCY VERSUS NON-EMERGENCY RESPONSE MOIC SCENE 83.14% OF OUR APPARATUS RESPONSES ARE EMERGENCY MOIC SCENE, WHEREAS 16.46% OF OUR APPARATUS RESPONSES ARE NON-EMERGENCY RESPONSE MODE TO SCENE WITH MEDIC SQUAD 1 78, PICKING UP THESE LOW ACUITY, NON-EMERGENT RESPONSES. THIS ALLOWS FOR OUR OTHER FRONTLINE ALL RISK APPARATUSES TO PRIMARILY FOCUS ON THESE EMERGENCY RESPONSE MO TO SCENE. NOW YOU'LL NOTICE THAT MEDIC SQUAD 1 78 IS ABOUT SPLIT WITH 4 49 0.77% OF NON-EMERGENCY RESPONSES, AND 50.23% ARE EMERGENCY RESPONSES. NOW, THIS IS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE RESPONDING TO LOW ACUITY RESPONSES AS THEY'RE BEING DISPATCHED TO THE INCIDENT, THEY MAY GO EMERGENCY IN TERMS OF THEIR MO TO SCENE, AND THIS COULD BE BECAUSE MAYBE AS THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY TO THE INCIDENT, THEY GET MORE INFORMATION FROM DISPATCH AND THEY DO GO, UM, EMERGENCY RESPONSE MO TO SCENE. SO AGAIN, WE CAN SEE THAT MEDIC SQUAD ONE SEVEN EIGHT'S CONTRIBUTION TO LOW ACUITY RESPONSES HAS HAD AN IMPACT OF OPTIMIZING EFFECTIVE RESOURCE DEPLOYMENT TO ENSURE OUR COMMUNITY IS RECEIVING THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH INCLUDES SENDING THE RIGHT RESOURCE TO THE RIGHT PATIENT AT THE RIGHT TIME. THIS ONE, EXCUSE ME. IN REGARD TO THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THIS, THE MEDIC SQUAD IS GOING TO BE STAFFED BY ONE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC AND ONE FIREFIGHTER EMT ON A 24 7 BASIS. WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS IS IT'S STAFFED BY A TOTAL OF SIX PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE SHIFTS IN ANTICIPATION OF THE COUNTY AMBULANCE CONTRACT. THE STAFFING FOR THIS UNIT IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET. THE TOTAL ANNUAL EXPENSE IS ESTIMATED AT 1.3 MILLION. STAFFING WILL NO LONGER BE OFFSET BY AMBULANCE REVENUE, UM, WHICH WAS ESTIMATED AT ABOUT 1.4 MILLION. TWO. DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THE AMBULANCE CONTRACT, WE MAY NEED TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE AT A LATER DATE. AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T. FOR THE AMBULANCE CONTRACT, WE HAD PURCHASED TWO AMBULANCES, UM, AND THOSE WILL BE USED FOR MEDIC SQUAD 1 78. IF THE AMBULANCE CONTRACT DOES MOVE FORWARD AT A LATER DATE, THEN WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND WE WOULD, UM, COME BACK TO PURCHASE ANOTHER SQUAD UNIT. OKAY, THANK YOU DAR UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE FIRE BOARD IS TO, UH, APPROVE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF MED SQUAD 1 78. THE DEPLOYMENT OF MED SQUAD 1 78 TO LOW ACUITY CALLS HAS INCREASED THE AVAILABILITY OF THE FIRE DISTRICT'S ALL RISK RESPONSE MODEL, UM, LEAVING OUR APPARATUS AVAILABLE FOR MORE CRITICAL CALLS IN NATURE OF THE HIGHER ACUITY CALLS IN WHICH OVERALL ENHANCES THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS TIME, THIS CONCLUDES OUR, UH, PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. [01:10:04] JUST A COMMENT. I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. IT WAS REALLY WELL DONE, SO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. IT'S CLEAR THAT STATION, UH, 1 78 IS VERY BUSY, AND, UM, I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO KEEP THEM SAFE AND HEALTHY. SO THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I, THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE LAST SQUAD CONCEPT THAT WE WOULD BE THINKING OF AS WE BUILD OUT THE COMMUNITY AND ANOTHER STATION IS STARTING TO REALLY BUMP UP WITH A NUMBER OF CALLS AND YOU DETERMINE THEM TO BE NON-EMERGENT CALLS OR LOW ACUITY, UH, THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING. I I, I WILL TELL YOU TRADITIONALLY IN THE FIRE SERVICE SQUADS HAVE NOT BEEN A VERY POPULAR THING AND I COMMEND THE STAFF, I COMMEND THE ENTIRE WORKFORCE FOR REALIZING THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, BY THE USE OF OF THESE MEDIC SQUAD, THIS MEDIC SQUAD AT STATION 1 78 BEING ONE OF THE BUSIEST, IF NOT THE BUSIEST STATION SINCE WE'VE OPENED IT UP. UM, BUT, UM, JUST A, JUST A, A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL CHANGE IN OUR DELIVERY SYSTEM, ANOTHER CHANGE IN OUR DELIVERY SYSTEM, WHETHER IT'S EMD OR OTHER, UH, OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON. UH, I, I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT, UM, BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THE STAFF REPORT WAS WELL WRITTEN, WELL UNDERSTOOD, AND I, I WOULD JUST ECHO COUNCILWOMAN SCOTT'S, UH, COMMENT. THIS WAS PROBABLY THE BEST REPORT I'VE EVER SEEN FROM THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH USING DATA TO GUIDE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO A DECISION FOR SUPPORTING SUCH AN EFFORT. SO THANK YOU. OKAY, SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE MEDIC SQUAD NUMBER 1 78? SO MOVED SECOND, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT WITH MAYOR PRO TEM KENNEDY. ABSENT. AND, AND JUST ONE LAST QUESTION, JUST FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION. IT'S NOW A MEDIC SQUAD 1 78, BUT UM, AT SOME FUTURE DATE, IF WE HAVE A NEW AMBULANCE CONTRACT UNDER THE SAME KIND OF MODEL THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE PLANNED ON, THEN THAT MEDIC SQUAD WOULD TURN INTO THE AMBULANCE OR WOULD WE HIRE MORE PEOPLE FOR THE AMBULANCE? SO WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD START A AMBULANCE OPERATOR PROGRAM SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES OPERATE, AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, A NON-FIRE, A NON-SAFETY PERSON, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE ONE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC THAT WE WOULD HIRE PERFECT FOR EACH SHIFT. YEAH. AND THAT WOULD BE THEN THE GENERATION OF REVENUE TO SUPPORT THAT PARTICULAR OPERATION? THAT'S CORRECT. VERY GOOD. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. UH, COUNCIL BUSINESS, ARE THERE [I. COUNCIL BUSINESS] ANY COUNCIL ANNOUNCEMENTS [I1. COUNCIL ANNOUNCEMENTS (Comments to be limited to three minutes per Council Member.)  ] OR INTERAGENCY [I2. INTER­AGENCY UPDATES (Update by the City Council to the community on the meetings that were attended.)  ] UPDATES OR ANY CITY ATTORNEY ITEMS? [J. CITY ATTORNEY ITEMS] SO WE HAVE IN ANY [K. IDENTIFICATION OF ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING] IDENTIFICATION OF ITEMS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS GOING TO BE, AS WE'VE STATED SEVERAL TIMES THROUGH THIS EVENING, UH, DECEMBER 18TH OF THIS YEAR, SEEING NONE, I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE WILL BE ADJOURNING THIS [L. ADJOURNMENT] MEETING IN THE MEMORY AND IN HONOR OF WILMA STEVIE, WE HAD A HAVE A CERTIFICATE, UH, THAT WE GIVE IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS TO THE FAMILY AND THAT WILL BE MAILED TO, UH, HER FAMILY BY OUR STAFF. SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO [L1. Adjournment in Memory of Wilma Steeve.] ASK FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN THE MEMORY AND, AND IN HONOR OF THE, THE BEAUTIFUL LADY WHO DID SO MUCH FOR OUR SENIORS IN THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE WITH US TONIGHT. WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.